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BleacherBum
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I don't see the big issue either
04/14/08 10:21 PM




I'm not aware of anyone ever having said that they changed their vote at any time as the result of anything the DR room has said. To the contrary, all we see is people bitching about how they had to defend their original position, and that they didn't change their minds.

What we do see, on the other hand, is a TV show on which the outcome needs to include a bit of suspense. Otherwise, how would they fill a full hour? So order to create that suspense and keep the audience wondering about the outcome (especially the predominant audience that does not watch the feeds), the producers need to get the players to speak about why they might *hypothetically* consider voting/nominating/POV'ing the other way.

The producers already know the player's anticipated game play when they call the player to the diary room - the producers have been watching the feeds too! But they want to get the player talking about alternative scenarios in order to create some drama for the TV show. So this takes awhile, and the players bitch that they had to sit in the DR for so long that they couldn't do something in the house. Too bad!

Again, I know of no one who has changed their vote (aside maybe from America's Player last year) based on what happened in the Diary room. This complaint of "manipulation" comes up often, and I only watched about half the video linked in this post before I got bored, but the evidence that I viewed just doesn't support the charge that anything nefarious is going on.

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* Examples of Diary Room Tampering – (some *ADULT* content)
Pugsley
04/13/08 08:47 PM
xx * bump very interesting NT
Belle
01/05/13 06:26 PM
xx * Thank you, fantastic gathering of evidence and summation of facts. NT
Alaskatoo
04/17/08 08:45 AM
xx * yup..agree, BB manipulates things, they have for YEARS...thanks for the links =) NT
stewart
04/17/08 08:39 AM
xx * Thanks for posthing this.I read on another board where clips of rigging is being sent to media NT
CelticChaos
04/16/08 06:35 PM
xx * I think the DR influences because a lot of fans say they don't want influence, but then say they'll stop watching when their favorite leaves.
ncassaro
04/15/08 11:44 PM
xx * Yup. This is the USA version, not the international which is more of a popularity contest. Viewers vote for their favorite there. NT
anastasia612
04/16/08 12:22 AM
xx * I would MUCH rather have it where America votes. NT
Spaceboy88
04/17/08 12:42 PM
xx * Truthfully we don't know how many times people have used DR as an excuse but there have definitely been some questionable actions.
calligal
04/15/08 12:24 PM
xx * I doubt Danielle was lying to her dad and Howie was lying to Janelle.But, that's why I included DR leaks which are inarguable. NT
Pugsley
04/16/08 08:19 AM
xx * I have believed for a very long time now
CaseyFinn
04/15/08 11:29 AM
xx * BB needs to disguish the difference between playing the HGs and playing the viewers NT
Pugsley
04/16/08 08:00 AM
xx * IMO - In real life it takes peoples months, years, and sometimes several years
cjo
04/15/08 09:53 AM
xx * Have you ever READ Big Brother, the book? That's what it's all about...
bookgirlpdx
04/15/08 09:00 AM
xx * This isn't the book. Besides, it never claimed to its audience that it's a reality show. NT
Pugsley
04/16/08 08:02 AM
xx * I loved watching Joe Schmoe. BB9 reminds me of that show, except
ratts
04/15/08 12:45 AM
xx * You don't mind not being let in on the joke? er..... okay. Most people would though. NT
Pugsley
04/16/08 08:22 AM
xx * I totally agree. The most blatant (before this season) was for Janelle, she won all of America's Choice polls, so of course
anastasia612
04/14/08 11:13 PM
xx * I agree. Yeah you should care, it's YOUR time that you are spending watching what you think is a reality show....but isn't. NT
Pugsley
04/16/08 08:06 AM
xx * I don't see the big issue either
BleacherBum
04/14/08 10:21 PM
xx * BB8: Kail being coached by the Diary Room as she’s having a hard time memorizing her lines given to her to say by the DR
Pugsley
04/14/08 09:58 PM
xx * video of Kail being coached by the Diary Room can be found on YouTube NT
Pugsley
04/16/08 07:59 AM
xx * Julie did say that America was voting for a houseguest who would have A CHANCE to reenter the house. NT
gd2BQueen
04/14/08 04:44 PM
xx * I don't understand the complaint. It's BigBrother, AND the DR is BB? Simple. NT
bacicat
04/14/08 04:26 PM
xx * I don't think the problem is the tampering, it is that BB tries to hide it from us. In the U.K. edition BB gives
anastasia612
04/15/08 04:00 AM
xx * Exactly! Thank you! ;) NT
Pugsley
04/16/08 08:03 AM
xx * That is it in a nut shell. If BB wants to manipulate the hg..fine. I however, am not a hg, and therefore I want them to be up front with me. NT
CaseyFinn
04/15/08 11:32 AM
xx * My point exactly! We didn't sign that contract...why play the viewers? Fortunately BB misses to hide a few DR leaks or we wouldn't know. NT
Pugsley
04/16/08 08:09 AM
xx * the major problem is who the "tampering" is perceived for/against
frustratedposter
04/15/08 08:12 AM
xx * It manipulates the game for CBS profit only. I don't mind if my favorite HG is evicted as much if they went out on their own merits. NT
Pugsley
04/16/08 08:11 AM
xx * i sure hope the gun they hold to the HG's heads goes up on Ebay this year NT
Bilbo
04/16/08 08:13 AM
xx * Of course they still have a choice. But realistically, you can't say you haven't ever done anything that you would rather not
Pugsley
04/16/08 08:45 AM
xx * Stockholm Syndrome. Exactly so. NT
STella668
04/17/08 02:40 AM
xx * Yes. Thank you :) NT
Pugsley
04/18/08 09:05 AM
xx * what makes you think i don't understand simple human nature? i also understand if there were a show that worried me this much
Bilbo
04/16/08 08:49 AM
xx * It's not the manipulation, it's the information they give them in the process. Sure, play with their minds, but quit dropping in info they know
realityrocks
04/16/08 10:41 AM
xx * also daniele said it best, dr makes you look at all options but as the PLAYER, they make their OWN decsions not the dr NT
echo
04/14/08 09:58 AM
xx * A DR leak from BB8 shows Kail being told word for word what to say for the cameras. NT
Pugsley
04/14/08 09:50 PM
xx * the DR has played the SAME role since BB1 , this is not new NT
echo
04/14/08 09:57 AM
xx * BB1 and Diary Room
NancyOttawa
04/14/08 02:40 PM
xx * BB1 did have live feeds and there was lots of game play....it was a great season! NT
Alexa
04/14/08 04:45 PM
xx * actually there were live feeds, and they were free. crappy, but free :) NT
Bilbo
04/14/08 04:42 PM
xx * *yawn* been that way forever and i don't feel deceived because i'm well aware of it NT
Bilbo
04/14/08 04:57 AM
xx * The intention of deception (a misleading falsehood) is there, whether you are aware of it or not.....many are left undetected by the overzealous. NT
Pugsley
04/14/08 10:04 PM
xx * same here, the DR/Producers have always influence the game with the DR's leading questions, it's nothing new NT
RedBB
04/14/08 06:41 AM
xx * Doesn't make it right.... And it's much more that influencing. It's direct scripting. Re: Kail's dialogue. NT
Pugsley
04/16/08 08:15 AM
xx * Re: Doesn't make it right.... And it's much more that influencing. It's direct scripting. Re: Kail's dialogue.
frustratedposter
04/16/08 12:20 PM
xx * You said, "...they assisted her in wording it." Yep - They told her what to say and used their words not hers. NT
Pugsley
04/18/08 09:11 AM
xx * Wow! NT
crazyq
04/13/08 10:00 PM

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