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Thank you RazzyBB for your excellent reply. But let me clarify . . .
11/06/16 05:10 AM

I fear my use of the term “Amazons” was taken too literally and so my point wasn’t clear. It would have been better if I said “strong, confident, adult women.” This has nothing to do with their physical appearance or attributes. It has everything to do with independence and self-confidence. Not sure what else to say on this point. It is not about their bodies or their looks for me. I always wish it were not about their bodies or looks for other HGs and fans.

Again, my poor word choice caused you to miss my point, and I’m sorry for that. The Ball Smashers did make me think about the role of showmances and all girl alliances. The fact that 3 of the 4 BS girls had boyfriends at home made them focus on their alliance and game, and perhaps this is one ingredient in a successful girls’ alliance. Certainly something to consider.

You make some other good points, particularly about the girls talking game vs. others’ off-color antics. The distinction is true, but rather beside my point (earlier I said “lost on me”). It also addressed an entirely different question in my opinion--unless one argues the girls display better behavior by virtue of them being girls, which I do not. I am not here to defend the LNJ behavior and would not even try.

As to my regret about the girls seeming apologetic about being in an all girls’ alliance, you replied “I find their apologetic nature rational. given the BB track record of all girls alliances, it would make sense for them to worry that voters would not take them seriously.” This point may help to get to the root of my problem: Why should they fear being in an all girls’ alliance? Is it because such alliances never succeeded in the past? That only means no one would see it coming. While it may be a reason not to start a girls’ alliance, once those 4 girls found themselves tightly bonded and pulling Monte’s puppet strings they saw how powerful they could be. Why continue to apologize? And why fear the voters would not take them seriously? Do they NOT think an alliance is “good enough” unless it includes males? THAT is why I don’t like the apologizing.

The above paragraph is just all my reaction, and may say more about me than it does about them. I appreciate your reply and the chance to have some thoughtful discussion.

And to those KIDS who replied to my post saying they are in their 40’s, I say just wait until you really get old LOL!!!

Edited (11/06/16 05:10 AM)

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* The "didn't we always want an all-girl alliance?" question . . .
Singaling *
11/04/16 04:00 AM
xx * The problem with all female/male alliances is lack of depth. Lip gloss vs wet dream convos. As far as being apologetic, our culture does not
11/06/16 10:27 AM
xx * I'm in my late 40's and agree with much of what you said. I don't think age is a factor. Whit has always been my fav though. NT
11/05/16 10:36 PM
xx * I am 40's and don't agree with any of what you have posted about the BallSmashers, so it is not about age. NT
11/05/16 03:01 PM
xx * I respectfully disagree... I don't think we ever wanted an all girls alliance... I don't believe you did either...
11/05/16 01:56 PM
xx * ITA with every single word you have said. I wish I could have said it as well. I do feel that the OP
11/17/16 11:18 AM
xx * Thank you RazzyBB for your excellent reply. But let me clarify . . .
Singaling *
11/06/16 05:10 AM
xx * In my 50's and #NeverCared about a girls alliance happening. CBS planted the seeds for viewers to want that, wasn't organic.
11/17/16 05:05 PM
xx * I'm in my 60's so the cattiness of LNJ doesn't surprise me. It saddens me NT
11/06/16 09:04 PM
xx * I agree with your post and crack me up, thank you, I think at 491/2 I'm far from kid but I'll take it!!! NT
11/06/16 12:16 PM
xx * Thank you for the clarification, I understand much better now.
11/06/16 09:47 AM
xx * I would like to say thank you all for the adult conversation and respectful address to any disagreement. I truly enjoyed the read NT
11/17/16 11:26 AM
xx * Excellent post. You addressed quite a few of the things I disagreed with. NT
11/05/16 03:04 PM
xx * Thanks! :) NT
11/06/16 09:49 AM
xx * Re: I respectfully disagree ...
11/05/16 02:25 PM
xx * Thank you for the positive post NT
11/06/16 09:48 AM
xx * I'm older also and I don't think any of this about the girls. NT
11/05/16 11:35 AM
xx * Nice post. It seems a lot of our Jokers have come in with great insight today. I do agree with what you say. NT
11/05/16 06:33 AM
xx * I'm older and I don't think any of this....so it must not be due to age. NT
11/05/16 06:05 AM
xx * Very good insights. On the last point Whitney could have said "Smashers" NT
11/04/16 08:24 AM
xx * True. You think faster than she or I do. NT
Singaling *
11/04/16 12:52 PM

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