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Examples of Diary Room Tampering – (some *ADULT* content)
04/13/08 08:47 PM




These are just a few of the DR leaks and conversations that show the DR directly pressuring and manipulating houseguests. (Some old, some new, some blatantly obvious while others more subtle.)
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*Warning: Those who are overly-sensitive to criticism regarding BB may want to stop reading now.
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BB9 - The DR wants Matt to stay as they try to manipulate James to believe their reasons.
(James: It sounds like I’m really not supposed to get rid of Matt… interrogation style.”)
Youtube

BB9 DR influenced Adams nominations by Dreamer
URL

BB9 DR influenced Adams nominations 2 by Dreamer
URL

BB7: Howie confirms that Diary Room influences their nominations
(Howie: “If Big Brother would shut up the game would be so much easier. They go and incite people to do things.”
Janelle: “Yeah I know.”
Howie: “It pisses me off.”
Janelle: “I know.”
Howie: “They say they don’t cheat and help people, bullsh*t…”)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DVEppitdJc&feature=related

BB8: Big Brother Cheats - Jen talks about the Diary Room
(Jen, Evil Dick and Danielle all in agreement, and all talking about how the DR tips them off to information they otherwise would not have known.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD70IptvQs4&feature=related

BB8: DR made Daniele say pussy From: DreamersVids
(About 2:30 into the clip then goes to Trivia)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrvPnV0McfI

BB8: Big Brother Cheats 3- Jen Talks About Diary Room Influence
(Amber agrees and confirms it does happen with her as well.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy7HEc62jG8&feature=related

BB8: Daniele talks about Diary Room Manipulation *Quad View*
(Danielle: I get so annoyed, they take double the time and then one time she one time it kept trying to be like, saying stuff about you that I didn’t feel …and it was just like no!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyjBbpnZafU&feature=related

BB9 - Dr favoring James ? - Apr 3 - 110am BBT
URL
(45 seconds into clip then trivia)

BB9: Amanda, Allison and Sheila discuss diary room manipulation
(Amanda whispers, “They make you say things in there that you don’t want to say.”)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7zuCEmM_mg&NR=1

BB8: Big Brother Cheats Part 2 Jen & Jessica Talk Diary Room
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmguICjzhbE&feature=related

BB8 Eric Talks About Diary Room
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUsU0kK42Ws&feature=related

BB8: BB Producers caught again
(Asks Jen to change her clothes to pretend interview was taped earlier)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSrxQaGy2pE&feature=related

BB8: Diary Room Audio Leak (coaching Zach)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpT6ltFXWIg&feature=related

BB8: Amber talks about her DR with Kenny the big wig
From: DreamersVids
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n6h967ussk

BB9: Adam tells Ryan and Natalie about the DR laying it on him before nominations
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYbok7r5n0s

BB9: Ryan in DR
(For some reason Chris from the DR, don’t like Ryan’s earrings.)
Chris: “You should probably take them off…(laughing)…. they’re kinda feminine…(laughing) …”) (Are they fashion critics now?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNbROOAAc30

BB9: Adam tells Sheila DR/BB calls her 'Shebot' - misc kitchen talk (16:21)
(About 6:30 into the clip)
URL

BB9 Rigged more then normal?? BB9 uses extra heavy pressure and persuasion to get the storyline they want this year. BB10 just get some actors and give them a script and don't "pretend" it's "real".. http://www.oddandstupid.com/BB9/bb9_rigged_more_then_normal.htm

As you can see, numerous past houseguests have complained of Grodner’s staff interfering with how they choose to play their game. Unfortunately, this is nothing new to Big Brother. However, we need to distinguish a difference here. It’s one thing to manipulate the houseguests, but another to deceive us; the Big Brother viewers.

We could have a great reality show if Grodner would stop manipulating the houseguests. A lot of you might think, "Hey, that's the game. Who cares? It is what it is." while not realizing that you are the one they’re deceiving.

We don’t want to be duped thinking a houseguest did something on their own accord (That’s how we choose who to root for!), only to realize later that the DR staff was directing them to do it. They need to stop manipulating the outcome of the show. (..and yes, we’re still talking about this as long as it still continues to happen.)

Many of us are long-standing loyal viewers, and that type of deception to a loyal viewer is just not good business.

Julie said that America could go to the CBS website and vote to have one of the evicted houseguests voted back into the house. After a week of voting, Julie takes away our choice and decides to allow the houseguests to choose. Why didn’t Grodner let us know about this in the beginning? It may have changed the way we voted or IF we even voted. But they didn’t allow us that option. They deceived the viewers and did not allow us to consider all aspects pertaining to the voting. We were duped by Grodner by way of a clever loophole. No matter how you look at it, it was very misleading and I don't understand how deceiving the public is applauded in the name of "Good TV".

I merely request that Grodner be straightforward with us and exclude the Big Brother viewers from their deceptions, we weren’t the ones that signed the contract to be a houseguest. It would be far more forthright if Julie would announce before each show that, what you are about to see is not reality and made purely for entertainment purposes and the houseguests may be directed and coached by the production crew.

If we let Allison Grodner know how we feel about the interfering of the Diary Room staff as well as the coaching, pressuring and other such deceptions towards how a houseguest plays their game, it could result in more honest results. If you agree, write Allison Grodner Productions or CBS.

This isn’t a letter of hate, since I truly enjoy watching Big Brother. It is an amazing study in social psychology, but rather a legitimate way to contact the people in charge of producing this show and submit our request to dispose of all the interference for the upcoming seasons. I believe that we would all appreciate a bit more reality in this reality show. I like the program; I often speak its praises and its good points, but also like to maintain the liberty to voice complaints about it when they arise in hopes for a better show in the future.

In the end, it's our decision how we spend our time as it passes…. by either watching fantasy or reality.

Thanks,
Pugsley

p.s. Though some of you may not agree with this grievance, I’m sure you will respect those of us who do and our right to voice our opinion by writing to those involved with the show. Thank you.


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* Examples of Diary Room Tampering – (some *ADULT* content)
Pugsley
04/13/08 08:47 PM
xx * bump very interesting NT
Belle
01/05/13 06:26 PM
xx * Thank you, fantastic gathering of evidence and summation of facts. NT
Alaskatoo
04/17/08 08:45 AM
xx * yup..agree, BB manipulates things, they have for YEARS...thanks for the links =) NT
stewart
04/17/08 08:39 AM
xx * Thanks for posthing this.I read on another board where clips of rigging is being sent to media NT
CelticChaos
04/16/08 06:35 PM
xx * I think the DR influences because a lot of fans say they don't want influence, but then say they'll stop watching when their favorite leaves.
ncassaro
04/15/08 11:44 PM
xx * Yup. This is the USA version, not the international which is more of a popularity contest. Viewers vote for their favorite there. NT
anastasia612
04/16/08 12:22 AM
xx * I would MUCH rather have it where America votes. NT
Spaceboy88
04/17/08 12:42 PM
xx * Truthfully we don't know how many times people have used DR as an excuse but there have definitely been some questionable actions.
calligal
04/15/08 12:24 PM
xx * I doubt Danielle was lying to her dad and Howie was lying to Janelle.But, that's why I included DR leaks which are inarguable. NT
Pugsley
04/16/08 08:19 AM
xx * I have believed for a very long time now
CaseyFinn
04/15/08 11:29 AM
xx * BB needs to disguish the difference between playing the HGs and playing the viewers NT
Pugsley
04/16/08 08:00 AM
xx * IMO - In real life it takes peoples months, years, and sometimes several years
cjo
04/15/08 09:53 AM
xx * Have you ever READ Big Brother, the book? That's what it's all about...
bookgirlpdx
04/15/08 09:00 AM
xx * This isn't the book. Besides, it never claimed to its audience that it's a reality show. NT
Pugsley
04/16/08 08:02 AM
xx * I loved watching Joe Schmoe. BB9 reminds me of that show, except
ratts
04/15/08 12:45 AM
xx * You don't mind not being let in on the joke? er..... okay. Most people would though. NT
Pugsley
04/16/08 08:22 AM
xx * I totally agree. The most blatant (before this season) was for Janelle, she won all of America's Choice polls, so of course
anastasia612
04/14/08 11:13 PM
xx * I agree. Yeah you should care, it's YOUR time that you are spending watching what you think is a reality show....but isn't. NT
Pugsley
04/16/08 08:06 AM
xx * I don't see the big issue either
BleacherBum
04/14/08 10:21 PM
xx * BB8: Kail being coached by the Diary Room as she’s having a hard time memorizing her lines given to her to say by the DR
Pugsley
04/14/08 09:58 PM
xx * video of Kail being coached by the Diary Room can be found on YouTube NT
Pugsley
04/16/08 07:59 AM
xx * Julie did say that America was voting for a houseguest who would have A CHANCE to reenter the house. NT
gd2BQueen
04/14/08 04:44 PM
xx * I don't understand the complaint. It's BigBrother, AND the DR is BB? Simple. NT
bacicat
04/14/08 04:26 PM
xx * I don't think the problem is the tampering, it is that BB tries to hide it from us. In the U.K. edition BB gives
anastasia612
04/15/08 04:00 AM
xx * Exactly! Thank you! ;) NT
Pugsley
04/16/08 08:03 AM
xx * That is it in a nut shell. If BB wants to manipulate the hg..fine. I however, am not a hg, and therefore I want them to be up front with me. NT
CaseyFinn
04/15/08 11:32 AM
xx * My point exactly! We didn't sign that contract...why play the viewers? Fortunately BB misses to hide a few DR leaks or we wouldn't know. NT
Pugsley
04/16/08 08:09 AM
xx * the major problem is who the "tampering" is perceived for/against
frustratedposter
04/15/08 08:12 AM
xx * It manipulates the game for CBS profit only. I don't mind if my favorite HG is evicted as much if they went out on their own merits. NT
Pugsley
04/16/08 08:11 AM
xx * i sure hope the gun they hold to the HG's heads goes up on Ebay this year NT
Bilbo
04/16/08 08:13 AM
xx * Of course they still have a choice. But realistically, you can't say you haven't ever done anything that you would rather not
Pugsley
04/16/08 08:45 AM
xx * Stockholm Syndrome. Exactly so. NT
STella668
04/17/08 02:40 AM
xx * Yes. Thank you :) NT
Pugsley
04/18/08 09:05 AM
xx * what makes you think i don't understand simple human nature? i also understand if there were a show that worried me this much
Bilbo
04/16/08 08:49 AM
xx * It's not the manipulation, it's the information they give them in the process. Sure, play with their minds, but quit dropping in info they know
realityrocks
04/16/08 10:41 AM
xx * also daniele said it best, dr makes you look at all options but as the PLAYER, they make their OWN decsions not the dr NT
echo
04/14/08 09:58 AM
xx * A DR leak from BB8 shows Kail being told word for word what to say for the cameras. NT
Pugsley
04/14/08 09:50 PM
xx * the DR has played the SAME role since BB1 , this is not new NT
echo
04/14/08 09:57 AM
xx * BB1 and Diary Room
NancyOttawa
04/14/08 02:40 PM
xx * BB1 did have live feeds and there was lots of game play....it was a great season! NT
Alexa
04/14/08 04:45 PM
xx * actually there were live feeds, and they were free. crappy, but free :) NT
Bilbo
04/14/08 04:42 PM
xx * *yawn* been that way forever and i don't feel deceived because i'm well aware of it NT
Bilbo
04/14/08 04:57 AM
xx * The intention of deception (a misleading falsehood) is there, whether you are aware of it or not.....many are left undetected by the overzealous. NT
Pugsley
04/14/08 10:04 PM
xx * same here, the DR/Producers have always influence the game with the DR's leading questions, it's nothing new NT
RedBB
04/14/08 06:41 AM
xx * Doesn't make it right.... And it's much more that influencing. It's direct scripting. Re: Kail's dialogue. NT
Pugsley
04/16/08 08:15 AM
xx * Re: Doesn't make it right.... And it's much more that influencing. It's direct scripting. Re: Kail's dialogue.
frustratedposter
04/16/08 12:20 PM
xx * You said, "...they assisted her in wording it." Yep - They told her what to say and used their words not hers. NT
Pugsley
04/18/08 09:11 AM
xx * Wow! NT
crazyq
04/13/08 10:00 PM

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