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Entire thread (Refresh) Subject Posted by Posted on With all the Derek "winning" talk, I got curious. Clearly he and his partner took 1st most often (5x out of 17) But looking at the top three ne14cookies 04/21/14 08:03 PM I think his talent and popularity due to his talent, has everything to do with it. IMO NT vmaw 04/22/14 04:17 PM Derek hasn't been on all seasons. Edited: Started season 6, not on season 12. So he has won 5 out of 11 he has been on. NT EyesWideShut 04/21/14 08:28 PM I didn't realize he started that much later. Does skew my data theory some, but can't take away his talent no matter what the stats. NT ne14cookies 04/21/14 08:46 PM Here is what I think: EyesWideShut 04/21/14 09:05 PM I haven't been a diehard fan and viewer of this show, but I don't think the changes had all that much to do with any particular pro vmaw 04/22/14 04:19 PM Which is why you add Derek, Mark & Julianne and everyone else like them. The show needs to move on & be competitive in the tv world, I get it. I EyesWideShut 04/22/14 06:33 PM I don't think we can blame or credit Derek with the drift to less structured dance styles. I think that was entirely a production decision Beard 04/21/14 10:30 PM So either the show decided to be diverse and it brought on Derek & co to fill those roles. Or they saw Derek & co be outside of the box & went EyesWideShut 04/22/14 06:46 PM If by 'the result is the same' you mean that the show evolved to try to be more widely appealing, then yes, Beard 04/22/14 07:21 PM Superficial is your word not mine and I did not demean them with the word flash. You think I was blaming them when I wasn't. EyesWideShut 04/22/14 09:58 PM OK, I may have read something wrong into your post. I thought you were dismissing Derek as flash, Beard 04/22/14 10:24 PM In absolute agreement....except I am not a fan of Derek's sister. :) NT vmaw 04/22/14 04:23 PM I'm still a fan of her's, in spite of being deeply confused and disappointed with her 'phoning it in' remarks. Beard 04/22/14 05:01 PM I've never really cared for her, and I don't even know why. NT vmaw 04/22/14 05:06 PM Why I think the format changes happened: Phoenixfire 04/22/14 10:22 AM It's not about blame or credit. The show as a whole has moved away from featuring ballroom. Good or bad, it is what it is. This favors Derek & to EyesWideShut 04/22/14 09:04 AM Last night was the first time I've watched the show this season. I was ready to change the channel most of the show. I found the format too busy and CougarSpy 04/22/14 10:30 AM ITA, well said NT Cindy 04/22/14 08:21 AM Well said and I totally agree with your thoughts. I can't add a thing. TY NT ne14cookies 04/21/14 09:17 PM You're welcome. :) NT EyesWideShut 04/21/14 09:24 PM I'm not sure what you mean...that he wins because he gets favoritism? EyesWideShut 04/21/14 08:20 PM No I don't think he wins because of favoritism, just the opposite. Cheryl has been at the top too for example. NT ne14cookies 04/21/14 08:30 PM I think Derek gets a lot of requests. I know Nicole and Jennifer requested him. He's also never finished lower than 6th place. Phoenixfire 04/21/14 08:16 PM It seems we agree there seems to be biased voting by judges ...just found it statistically interesting. I also didn't want ne14cookies 04/21/14 08:22 PM

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