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At least Obamacare had vigourous debate and amendments before the vote. And the public got to weigh in. They are literally trying to ram this garbage
06/22/17 02:08 PM




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* Details of the Senate Health Care Bill Just Leaked. Prepare to Be Appalled.
petite6
06/21/17 04:42 PM
xx * FYI from 2013: Health Reform: An ‘Administrative Fix’ For Policy Cancellations
petite6
06/22/17 01:40 PM
xx * IMO if you voted for Trump and lose your insurance or have to pay more blame the person you see in mirror. NT
BlondeMoment
06/22/17 01:34 PM
xx * The GOP had 8 long years to come up with a plan and this was it...just don't come work for me, if you can't do your job. you're fired if all you
petite6
06/22/17 01:44 PM
xx * agree NT
BlondeMoment
06/22/17 02:03 PM
xx * Gov. John Kasich on the U.S. Senate’s health care system proposal:
petite6
06/22/17 01:15 PM
xx * Doctors and patient advocates are slamming the Senate Republicans' healthcare plan
petite6
06/22/17 01:12 PM
xx * Barack Obama - Facebook post on the healthcare bill
cantgetenough
06/22/17 01:03 PM
xx * blah blah blah, he still lied, I didn't get to keep the same doctor I had for 20 years, every time I found a doctor that my insurance would take the
MegsMom316
06/22/17 01:05 PM
xx * So, what you're really saying is that Obamacare didn't (wasn't allowed to) go far enough.
Beard
06/22/17 02:54 PM
xx * Time will tell if this plan works better for you. Let us know. NT
BlondeMoment
06/22/17 01:36 PM
xx * Does this new Republican proposal look like it will be more beneficial in any way so far? Or should the time have been spent to correct what was
kidfresh512
06/22/17 01:29 PM
xx * Exactly whatever you didn't like about Obamacare is nothing compared to what you are going to hate about Trump Care. NT
BlondeMoment
06/22/17 01:40 PM
xx * Well we dont know that yet. It could very well be true NT
VelvetWind
06/22/17 01:55 PM
xx * We do know. We've now see the bill and it's not good. Unless, you're a white wealthy man, then you got nothing to worry about. NT
cantgetenough
06/22/17 02:04 PM
xx * We know. The bill tells us. NT
BlondeMoment
06/22/17 02:03 PM
xx * I don't understand, with this plan that we have in front of us, takes millions off insurance and still increases premiums for the tax break. It's
petite6
06/22/17 02:00 PM
xx * There is literally no one that agrees it is a stronger bill, or the House Bill this was based off of. They kept it secret as long as possible
kidfresh512
06/22/17 02:06 PM
xx * I'm not arguing that.. so I guess you're just putting it out there for others? NT
VelvetWind
06/22/17 02:15 PM
xx * Then what is it you are arguing, that you should all trust Congress and let them pass this thing and see what happens?
Beard
06/22/17 02:59 PM
xx * I'm not arguing about anything. I just stated how I felt about Obamacare.
VelvetWind
06/22/17 03:17 PM
xx * Not putting any words in your mouth, just trying to figure out what your words mean in this context. This is a discussion forum, after all. NT
Beard
06/22/17 05:16 PM
xx * There is a reason it took Obama over a year to negotiate with insurers. If Trump is supposed to be so great at this, why doesn't he negotiate
petite6
06/22/17 03:12 PM
xx * You're right NT
VelvetWind
06/22/17 03:23 PM
xx * I'm not listening to a guy that drinks diet coke, doesn't think exercise is productive and still thinks Frederick Douglas is alive about health care
petite6
06/22/17 02:11 PM
xx * Well maybe he has to be given 4 years to prove himself like Obama had to prove himself with his healthcare reform. Scary huh? NT
VelvetWind
06/22/17 02:02 PM
xx * So, if he proved himself and his healthcare plan, then you probably shouldn't be scrapping a proven product
Beard
06/22/17 03:02 PM
xx * I've never mentioned anything like that in my posts. I can say that I'm not a fan of Obamacare. NT
VelvetWind
06/22/17 03:11 PM
xx * At least Obamacare had vigourous debate and amendments before the vote. And the public got to weigh in. They are literally trying to ram this garbage
kidfresh512
06/22/17 02:08 PM
xx * Obamacare has never been perfect, most GOP states opted out of medicaid expansion. But how is taking out mammograms, making pregnancy a precondition
petite6
06/22/17 02:06 PM
xx * I never said that any of it sounded good to me I didn't like Obamacare and I'm sure i won't like Trump care NT
VelvetWind
06/22/17 02:07 PM
xx * I definitely can see why some people wouldn't like Obamacare but that may have to do more with how their state managed it? It would be nice to see
petite6
06/22/17 03:37 PM
xx * Yes I do! NT
VelvetWind
06/22/17 03:42 PM
xx * Pink, I don't know if you have twitter but this guy gaba is really good
petite6
06/22/17 07:15 PM
xx * Most people were able to keep their plan and their doctor. Unfortunately, some people lost one or both. However, the main goals of Obamacare were to
Blockhead
06/22/17 01:24 PM
xx * 24+ million added to healthcare say otherwise and he did change that policy but the quality of insurance is better today than yesterday. That line
petite6
06/22/17 01:10 PM
xx * If those people didn't get healthcare they would be paying fines. NT
VelvetWind
06/22/17 01:17 PM
xx * do you know the cost of those fines? and would that be unreasonable? NT
petite6
06/22/17 01:30 PM
xx * For many im sure it would be. I'm not in that position so I can't answer for those people. NT
VelvetWind
06/22/17 01:47 PM
xx * I'd rather have fewer uninsured and Obamacare accomplished that. NT
Blockhead
06/22/17 01:28 PM
xx * Of course but they were still forced to get it in many cases. It wasn't like yes!! I'm glad approx 8 million families have it now also NT
VelvetWind
06/22/17 01:32 PM
xx * Is that the problem, that it was forced on a few people? Essentially all government law and regulation is forced/enforced on people,
Beard
06/22/17 03:08 PM
xx * Petite had said that 24 million people feel differently.
VelvetWind
06/22/17 03:22 PM
xx * that's if they couldn't get insurance in the first place. Insurers were discriminating against covering people, now they can't with Obamacare. So
petite6
06/22/17 03:32 PM
xx * you weren't forced and that was the problem because Obama's admin didn't enforce the rules. They even had Obamacare specialists tell you how to
petite6
06/22/17 01:34 PM
xx * Exemptions from the requirement to have health insurance
petite6
06/22/17 01:36 PM
xx * and if you don't have insurance and you have to go the emergency, who do you think is paying for that? Anyone been in an accident w.a motorist that
petite6
06/22/17 01:31 PM
xx * I needed emergency help a few yrs ago. Private funding paid my hospital bill. They told me that there was millions of dollars available to people
VelvetWind
06/22/17 01:44 PM
xx * Please share how to access this private funding. Who told you? NT
BlondeMoment
06/22/17 02:06 PM
xx * The hospital told me.. they said there was so much help that people could apply for and get help wirhtheir bills and people just don't do it. They
VelvetWind
06/22/17 02:17 PM
xx * do you mean a high risk pool? does this sound like what you're talking about?
petite6
06/22/17 02:20 PM
xx * No it's nothing like that.. it's private people donating money to the hospital for people in need of it NT
VelvetWind
06/22/17 02:29 PM
xx * do you have a link to what you're talking about? that would help NT
petite6
06/22/17 02:31 PM
xx * It's basically a charity type thing but depends on the hospital and what network they are in.
Blockhead
06/22/17 02:40 PM
xx * Awwwww thanks!! do you really see single payer happening? I'm not sure how I feel about that yet...I may prefer pubic option NT
petite6
06/22/17 02:54 PM
xx * Yes, eventually. The GOP plan will fail sooner rather then later. A new Dem plan will work for a while before the GOP tries to gut it like they are
Blockhead
06/22/17 03:00 PM
xx * I want to see how Cali deals with single payer. I just can't see our capitalist system freezing out health industries but that doesn't sound
petite6
06/22/17 03:04 PM
xx * But, a single payer system doesn't freeze out any healthcare related industries. Canada has a pretty healthy health insurance industry
Beard
06/22/17 03:15 PM
xx * There is no link. When you go to the hospital and you don't have the money to pay your bill you talk to somebody and they tell you about funding
VelvetWind
06/22/17 02:37 PM
xx * America is finally great again right? Can we stop this now? Please? NT
amandajaye
06/21/17 06:53 PM
xx * Average deductible for silver plans is $7,474 for families. Under the Senate bill this will increase to $10,464. No joke.
petite6
06/21/17 06:48 PM
xx * if deductibles are so high why would the average young person (young male especially) bother with health insurance at all? NT
tas
06/22/17 01:22 PM
xx * invincible is a choice. I've paid so much in insurance and have never needed it unless it was for the dermatologist of regular check up but
petite6
06/22/17 01:28 PM
xx * Yep! NT
VelvetWind
06/22/17 02:04 PM
xx * This is nuts. ACA plans cover 75% of costs on average. Lowering this to 58% will increase deductibles and other out-of-pocket costs by 68%
petite6
06/21/17 06:32 PM
xx * Medicaid is a lifeline for 1 in 10 veterans, will the Senate healthcare plan leave them behind?
petite6
06/21/17 06:03 PM

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