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Ask Yourself This Question – Those You Call The Greats — How Would They Fare With This Cast?
09/18/17 10:10 AM




It’s my firm contention that it is we, or rather our selective memory, that is different than the casts your ‘greats’ faced. BB was a brand new game (changed from the OG, and to my taste much better game. No one had any reference that season and let’s face it, that cast may have been less attention-whore-filled, but they were just as much a gang of know-nothing neophytes. Dan was with a gang or morons too. And Derrick had a pack of monkeys that as long as he kept them in bananas they hung out together. On their own they’d have failed miserably.

It just feels like an overabundance of Paul hate. His 3 weeks of safety are hardly a thing. If he didn’t have them and things went the same until he said he couldn’t be nommed and he was on the block, the seven would still feel betrayed by Cody and walk away since he backstabbed one of them ON THE FIRST WEEK. The votes that saved Christmas (put up in Paul’s stead) would’ve still voted out Jillian to prove to Cody he made a dumb-***** move on them, and Cody would still be gone wk 2. Paul was good from then because they had a common enemy. Some of you may choose to see things differently, but that’s your bent.

It’s fine not to like Paul. It’s fine to think the other HGs are all morons. It’s even fine for Josh to think he had a huge part in getting him where he is. That as well as Raven being the puppetmaster of the season are things to laugh about. But if you stop and just watch you’d see that getting people to trust you – seeing the recognition in the jury house of four people being there thinking Kevin was the target that week – well, the pressure is off and so may be the blinders.

I have to appreciate the game Paul played. Would I want to have a drink with him – n-n-NOO! But as a devotee of Big Brother I have to doff my cap to him.

As I’ve reminded you previously, Paul was a newbie last season and learned the game in the house. Paulie saved him from being the 3rd evictee and being gone, then taught him the game, from Paulie’s own warped perspective on it.

One of you thinks Victor should’ve won last season. Victor was the monster. He had no strategy at all but to go full-out in comps. For that hard work he got a record – he was evicted 3 times. It finally took. Victor was a tool that Paul used to his advantage. (Some may think Victor was or is a tool in a more colloquial sense, but that’s another post).

If Josh were to bring Christmas I’d still vote for Paul. Christmas did a little more to deserve F2 than Josh did (my hot take). Josh is Paul’s tool this season.

I feel pretty sure the jury will vote for Paul. Cody thought Paul was the only other alpha and said Paul had is vote if he was on jury. What so many others misread is Cody’s disdain for the other jurors not seeing what he saw. Mark went out thinking Paul was floating and now he’s the voice of reason? Come on.


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* Where does Paul stand in the pantheon of BB players? My take...
eibeh007
09/16/17 01:17 PM
xx * He's a two-time loser who still hasn't figured out how to manage the jury. I doubt he'll get a third chance. NT
Nusa
09/20/17 11:25 PM
xx * Well now without having won the season he can't be put in the same class as the past BB greats. NT
JayPoppa
09/20/17 09:43 PM
xx * I remember watching BB8 (ED) and thinking how passive the cast was. Same here. Paul did a great job but as a person he sucks so I can't respect it.
DuhWhat
09/18/17 12:17 PM
xx * Ask Yourself This Question – Those You Call The Greats — How Would They Fare With This Cast?
Mikentosh
09/18/17 10:10 AM
xx * Grrrrrreat post! Enjoyed your descriptions of the BB minions past and present. To use an old '60s expression. "Right on!!!" NT
BBenthusiast
09/19/17 09:43 PM
xx * I disagree with your analysis of what would have happened if the Paul nom had succeeded. It was the Xmas nom that broke things apart, not Pauls. NT
Nusa
09/18/17 03:34 PM
xx * Nusa, I agree with you totally.. NT
Sizzle
09/19/17 02:08 PM
xx * I'd have to agree with you (begrudgingly so). I hate Paul, but he outplayed these fools and got them to take out each other..
beachbum7
09/18/17 12:35 PM
xx * Paul is a above average player at best who was luckily casted with the most clueless house guests of all time. And yes Production can be extremely
JayPoppa
09/16/17 10:55 PM
xx * I completely agree with what you said, but I have come to the conclusion that "with any other cast", a different outcome would occur will ever
cjj3
09/17/17 08:14 PM
xx * "With any other cast he wouldn't have made it this far...". You do realize he got this far last season, too, right? That was a different cast. NT
BigGirlPanties
09/17/17 09:43 AM
xx * Yes he made it that far last year but this is a whole different season. No other cast would allow a 2nd place vet to make it this far. It just
JayPoppa
09/17/17 08:18 PM
xx * With so many cast with no knowledge of BB at this point, this scenario will happen over and over. They know no better. NT
cjj3
09/17/17 08:46 PM
xx * Yes but in fairness it is apples and oranges. He came in as a vet and experience this time around with an unfair advantage with three saves. NT
ne14cookies
09/17/17 11:42 AM
xx * But when he had none of those things, he got that far. He deserves the win. NT
BigGirlPanties
09/17/17 12:30 PM
xx * Sure he did, but still not apples and oranges. Whether or not we think he deserves the win, jury decides if he does, maybe too much blood. They will
ne14cookies
09/17/17 10:16 PM
xx * Agree about Josh. If he sends Paul packing then he does deserve to win. Jury seems bitter now, but we shall see! :) NT
BigGirlPanties
09/18/17 06:41 AM
xx * I think he got far last year with much help from Victor. Victor should have been the winner IMO. Paul was lucky last year but I wanted him to win
cjj3
09/17/17 08:02 PM
xx * Paul's Paul. He was so last year & he is so this year! I predict a landslide vote for him to win-'Cause-(& this is my favorite BB19 show moment)...
BBenthusiast
09/17/17 04:05 AM
xx * Paul is in the same class as Boogie, Jordan and Rachel. All 2nd time playing winners... NT
Sizzle
09/19/17 01:58 PM
xx * no jordan won first time round NT
Belle
09/19/17 01:59 PM
xx * I have to agree with you BBenthusiast but I think he will get the Andy vote and a winning "BB vet" should never be put in the same category as the
AprilSky
09/17/17 09:01 PM
xx * I
paulc35
09/16/17 01:51 PM

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