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Mikentosh
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Austin is clueless – he has his finger on the pulse, but it’s not the house or the jury’s pulse —
09/16/15 10:11 AM




he thinks he’s the most popular HG and Johnny Mac is a doufus according to we viewers. He probably thinks he’s beloved by the jury members — I don’t think they think so highly of him. He’s a villain in his wrestling life and was/is trying to be a BB villain too.

My guess is the jury (other than Julia and Austin) don’t hold Liz in such high regard as a gamer. Austin has/may/could blame Johnny Mac for the backstab/scumbagging he feels he was dealt. We know Austin doesn’t think highly of Steve or Johnny Mac as players, but we also know what organ Austin does the most thinking with, now don’t we?

There are enough of them in jury now that heard “evict whoever returns” and Johnny Mac was quickly forgotten. That could diminish Van in the jury’s eyes. And Liz was a leader of that band as well.

If Steve did indeed throw PoV he should have a timeout. If it were down to Johnny Mac and he and he threw, yes, fine, but not with Liz or Vanessa still in the comp. Bad Steve. All 3 of the others wouldn’t save Vanessa (possibly Liz would, possibly wouldn’t), but letting Vanessa win is uninformed. I may have to sit that boy down and have a talk with him.

So it seems Rockstars need to compose another mega-hit and maneuver Van into evicting Liz or we (yes, I have a mouse in my pocket) will feel a loss and have just a little less pep in our step (and DR segments).


“Clowns to the left of me, Jokers’ to the right, here I am, stuck in the riddle with you.”

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* Interesting night....
Sizzle
09/15/15 09:41 PM
xx * NOW -- why hasn't JohnnyMac done any hard-core campaigning with V here at F4? Voting is in 3 hours??? Has he given up???
BBenthusiast
09/16/15 03:07 PM
xx * He knows all the campaigning in the world can't save him. Van knows at this point in the game promises mean zilch. NT
dazyhazy
09/16/15 03:15 PM
xx * I'll have to wait to see how the pov went down, but I have a strong suspicion that Steve threw it simply because he didn't have the balls to leave
dazyhazy
09/16/15 01:20 PM
xx * Newsflash!!! Steve is ACTUALLY a character out of a Woody Allen Movie!
BBenthusiast
09/16/15 05:37 AM
xx * If Steve is crying & so upset that John will most likely be evicted, then why do you think he nominated him ? NT
starrynite
09/16/15 08:51 AM
xx * because there was no one left NT
Bilbo
09/16/15 09:05 AM
xx * Liz, but I think Steve knew exactly what he was doing. NT
starrynite
09/16/15 10:52 AM
xx * He knew the noms were meaningless at F4. HOH keeps you safe but gives you no control over who leaves. That all rests with the veto winner
JAF
09/16/15 03:21 PM
xx * agree with ya, I also find this to be my favorite season in a LONG time. I'm flabbergasted by those who say they hate it. Guess because
Bilbo
09/16/15 04:14 AM
xx * I totally agree Bilbo... NT
Sizzle
09/16/15 09:11 AM
xx * F4 HoH initial noms are meaningless, so there is no actual targeting possible by the HoH. Only the PoV gets to target. NT
Nusa
09/16/15 12:38 AM
xx * AND -- it grows evermore interesting, Sizzle!! NOW -- Vanessa's won POV -- WHO does she evict?? I go back & forth -- AND my M&Ms aren't helping!!!
BBenthusiast
09/15/15 11:18 PM
xx * BUT.....
Sizzle
09/16/15 09:24 AM
xx * Austin is clueless – he has his finger on the pulse, but it’s not the house or the jury’s pulse —
Mikentosh
09/16/15 10:11 AM
xx * OK then Mikentosh..
Sizzle
09/16/15 10:50 AM
xx * Austins only concern is his image. He will vote for van. I believe in the end he has enough influence with the twins that Van will have all 3 of
dazyhazy
09/16/15 01:43 PM
xx * I don't... NT
Sizzle
09/16/15 04:39 PM
xx * If Liz were in final 2, he'd vote for Liz. If it's Vanessa and either S or JMAC, I'm not so sure he'd vote for Van, at all. Liz would make sure he
BigGirlPanties
09/16/15 01:52 PM
xx * Could go either way. Vanessa believes neither choice would choose her for F2, even if they say they will. So it may come down to her "integrity"... NT
Nusa
09/16/15 12:41 AM
xx * I would think it's a slam dunk that she'll evict JMac (unfortunately). My only hope is that Vanessa pulls a Vanessa and overthinks it so much
JAF
09/16/15 06:29 AM
xx * Vanessa and Steve had a long talk about this last night....
Sizzle
09/16/15 09:33 AM
xx * You mean for Van/Steve to overcome the automatic 2 votes Liz would get? I dunno. Would Liz get more than 2 votes against ANY of the other 3 left?
JAF
09/16/15 11:14 AM
xx * I have no idea how the jury will vote at this point. NT
Sizzle
09/16/15 11:58 AM
xx * I just remember a few of them (Shelli, and I think someone else, as well as Steve in the house) commenting with "damn, she's good"
JAF
09/16/15 03:15 PM
xx * Do I dare hold out hope???? NT
procheervet
09/16/15 09:55 AM
xx * Yes... NT
Sizzle
09/16/15 10:50 AM
xx * Oh, my! You've given me hope, too! NT
BigGirlPanties
09/16/15 09:47 AM
xx * look at us big girl :) its gonna be another long day NT
Belle
09/16/15 09:47 AM
xx * Yes, it is, my friend. Sitting on pins and needles! NT
BigGirlPanties
09/16/15 09:48 AM
xx * Sitting on hope right here with you. NT
BigGirlPanties
09/16/15 08:35 AM
xx * She may. Note Steve is openly turned to Liz tonight to sleep & bond with her and it may be because he wants to force Van to go after Liz. NT
wrinky
09/16/15 06:32 AM
xx * What makes me think it won't happen this time is that the equation is much simpler now for her with so few people left. Before she'd twist
JAF
09/16/15 08:40 AM
xx * Your forgetting that...
Sizzle
09/16/15 09:46 AM
xx * But she's still all about having the best odds she can get. Between JMac and Liz, I'd think her odds on a comp are better vs Liz. And probably
JAF
09/16/15 11:07 AM
xx * Sorry to keep springing off you, Sizzle. Blood Stains and Final Speech – A Brief History
Mikentosh
09/16/15 10:58 AM
xx * So am I...but Van is in the F3 now that she won POV.. NT
Sizzle
09/16/15 12:04 PM
xx * That isn't why Dan lost though. He lost because he crossed a line in how he used Danielle and devastated her emotionally. NT
JAF
09/16/15 11:26 AM
xx * To paraphrase the essay from "The Breakfast Club" - you see things as you want to see them. I called it like I saw it. NT
Mikentosh
09/16/15 11:42 AM
xx * I'm rooting the same way as you (I'd love a Steve-JMac F2). But I do think Vanessa (flaws and all) has played the strongest game by a
JAF
09/16/15 11:56 AM
xx * I agree, if Van makes F2 I personally think she deserves the win. I'm just hoping the F2 are Steve and Johnny Mac.. NT
Sizzle
09/16/15 12:06 PM
xx * I agree with you, JAF. I'd have to give her the win based on merit alone if she makes it to the end. I'm also wanting a S or JM win, though. NT
BigGirlPanties
09/16/15 12:00 PM

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