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Oh, my! You've given me hope, too! NT
09/16/15 09:47 AM





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* Interesting night....
Sizzle
09/15/15 09:41 PM
xx * NOW -- why hasn't JohnnyMac done any hard-core campaigning with V here at F4? Voting is in 3 hours??? Has he given up???
BBenthusiast
09/16/15 03:07 PM
xx * He knows all the campaigning in the world can't save him. Van knows at this point in the game promises mean zilch. NT
dazyhazy
09/16/15 03:15 PM
xx * I'll have to wait to see how the pov went down, but I have a strong suspicion that Steve threw it simply because he didn't have the balls to leave
dazyhazy
09/16/15 01:20 PM
xx * Newsflash!!! Steve is ACTUALLY a character out of a Woody Allen Movie!
BBenthusiast
09/16/15 05:37 AM
xx * If Steve is crying & so upset that John will most likely be evicted, then why do you think he nominated him ? NT
starrynite
09/16/15 08:51 AM
xx * because there was no one left NT
Bilbo
09/16/15 09:05 AM
xx * Liz, but I think Steve knew exactly what he was doing. NT
starrynite
09/16/15 10:52 AM
xx * He knew the noms were meaningless at F4. HOH keeps you safe but gives you no control over who leaves. That all rests with the veto winner
JAF
09/16/15 03:21 PM
xx * agree with ya, I also find this to be my favorite season in a LONG time. I'm flabbergasted by those who say they hate it. Guess because
Bilbo
09/16/15 04:14 AM
xx * I totally agree Bilbo... NT
Sizzle
09/16/15 09:11 AM
xx * F4 HoH initial noms are meaningless, so there is no actual targeting possible by the HoH. Only the PoV gets to target. NT
Nusa
09/16/15 12:38 AM
xx * AND -- it grows evermore interesting, Sizzle!! NOW -- Vanessa's won POV -- WHO does she evict?? I go back & forth -- AND my M&Ms aren't helping!!!
BBenthusiast
09/15/15 11:18 PM
xx * BUT.....
Sizzle
09/16/15 09:24 AM
xx * Austin is clueless – he has his finger on the pulse, but it’s not the house or the jury’s pulse —
Mikentosh
09/16/15 10:11 AM
xx * OK then Mikentosh..
Sizzle
09/16/15 10:50 AM
xx * Austins only concern is his image. He will vote for van. I believe in the end he has enough influence with the twins that Van will have all 3 of
dazyhazy
09/16/15 01:43 PM
xx * I don't... NT
Sizzle
09/16/15 04:39 PM
xx * If Liz were in final 2, he'd vote for Liz. If it's Vanessa and either S or JMAC, I'm not so sure he'd vote for Van, at all. Liz would make sure he
BigGirlPanties
09/16/15 01:52 PM
xx * Could go either way. Vanessa believes neither choice would choose her for F2, even if they say they will. So it may come down to her "integrity"... NT
Nusa
09/16/15 12:41 AM
xx * I would think it's a slam dunk that she'll evict JMac (unfortunately). My only hope is that Vanessa pulls a Vanessa and overthinks it so much
JAF
09/16/15 06:29 AM
xx * Vanessa and Steve had a long talk about this last night....
Sizzle
09/16/15 09:33 AM
xx * You mean for Van/Steve to overcome the automatic 2 votes Liz would get? I dunno. Would Liz get more than 2 votes against ANY of the other 3 left?
JAF
09/16/15 11:14 AM
xx * I have no idea how the jury will vote at this point. NT
Sizzle
09/16/15 11:58 AM
xx * I just remember a few of them (Shelli, and I think someone else, as well as Steve in the house) commenting with "damn, she's good"
JAF
09/16/15 03:15 PM
xx * Do I dare hold out hope???? NT
procheervet
09/16/15 09:55 AM
xx * Yes... NT
Sizzle
09/16/15 10:50 AM
xx * Oh, my! You've given me hope, too! NT
BigGirlPanties
09/16/15 09:47 AM
xx * look at us big girl :) its gonna be another long day NT
Belle
09/16/15 09:47 AM
xx * Yes, it is, my friend. Sitting on pins and needles! NT
BigGirlPanties
09/16/15 09:48 AM
xx * Sitting on hope right here with you. NT
BigGirlPanties
09/16/15 08:35 AM
xx * She may. Note Steve is openly turned to Liz tonight to sleep & bond with her and it may be because he wants to force Van to go after Liz. NT
wrinky
09/16/15 06:32 AM
xx * What makes me think it won't happen this time is that the equation is much simpler now for her with so few people left. Before she'd twist
JAF
09/16/15 08:40 AM
xx * Your forgetting that...
Sizzle
09/16/15 09:46 AM
xx * But she's still all about having the best odds she can get. Between JMac and Liz, I'd think her odds on a comp are better vs Liz. And probably
JAF
09/16/15 11:07 AM
xx * Sorry to keep springing off you, Sizzle. Blood Stains and Final Speech – A Brief History
Mikentosh
09/16/15 10:58 AM
xx * So am I...but Van is in the F3 now that she won POV.. NT
Sizzle
09/16/15 12:04 PM
xx * That isn't why Dan lost though. He lost because he crossed a line in how he used Danielle and devastated her emotionally. NT
JAF
09/16/15 11:26 AM
xx * To paraphrase the essay from "The Breakfast Club" - you see things as you want to see them. I called it like I saw it. NT
Mikentosh
09/16/15 11:42 AM
xx * I'm rooting the same way as you (I'd love a Steve-JMac F2). But I do think Vanessa (flaws and all) has played the strongest game by a
JAF
09/16/15 11:56 AM
xx * I agree, if Van makes F2 I personally think she deserves the win. I'm just hoping the F2 are Steve and Johnny Mac.. NT
Sizzle
09/16/15 12:06 PM
xx * I agree with you, JAF. I'd have to give her the win based on merit alone if she makes it to the end. I'm also wanting a S or JM win, though. NT
BigGirlPanties
09/16/15 12:00 PM

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