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FeministKilljoy
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Here's something else to think about, why is it that only the white people are supposedly not interested in watching cultures that aren't their own?
08/16/13 01:05 PM




When I was growing up, at least there was an attempt to portray all kinds of cultures. The Cosby Show may not have portrayed the average African American family, but at least they tried to show something different. The Jeffersons and even Diff'rent Strokes are other examples.

Personally, I like learning about people different than me. Maybe others do to?

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* Postulated this on BBD but wanted more in-depth discussion. What do you think of the idea of a all non-white cast? Or just one white?
LuckyLizzie74
08/16/13 11:38 AM
xx * I 100% support this idea. It upsets me how people are so opposed to it. NT
Heloise
08/20/13 03:20 AM
xx * I am quite surprised at the overwhelming negative response. I really am! NT
LuckyLizzie74
08/20/13 12:14 PM
xx * Personally I'd rather just cast all colour-blind contestants... and I mean people who honestly don't CARE what race you are. NT
Digitalpotato
08/17/13 04:40 PM
xx * There are many BB shows. bigbrotherafrica.com is pretty much what you're asking for. NT
Nusa
08/17/13 12:32 AM
xx * Most of us have noticed that there are non-whites living right here in America! Imagine that! NT
Caramel
08/17/13 12:37 AM
xx * It's shocking, isn't it? I can go out shopping in my neighborhood and not see a white face, but somehow I should watch BB Africa if I want to
FeministKilljoy
08/17/13 12:52 AM
xx * He's simply pointing out....
scottzet
08/17/13 04:17 PM
xx * It's not actually the same. The US/Canada version of BB is a LOT different than the other int'l versions. So casting an all minority BBUS game would
FeministKilljoy
08/17/13 04:39 PM
xx * Pitch it to Univision or BET....
scottzet
08/17/13 05:22 PM
xx * Survivor: Cook Islands did something similar
patmanbnl
08/16/13 09:31 PM
xx * Don't believe they got the results they were hoping for on that one. NT
AngelsofCa
08/19/13 04:07 AM
xx * If it would get higher ratings they would do it. NT
SolitaryDParty
08/16/13 05:51 PM
xx * No it wouldn't, it would be cancelled after a week. NT
intothegrinder
08/19/13 09:00 PM
xx * I totally agree. I even suggested as much a few weeks ago. Since it seems to be totally acceptable to have had all whites since this show's inception,
Caramel
08/16/13 04:25 PM
xx * 1 it has never been all white 2 Danielle Reyes, Jun Song NT
zagger
08/16/13 04:33 PM
xx * Of course I didn't mean ALL white, but it may as well be, because they never cast more than one or two black people -- never. NT
Caramel
08/17/13 12:41 AM
xx * wrong again, BB13, Kalia, Lawon, Keith, Brendon, Dominic NT
zagger
08/17/13 08:37 AM
xx * I thought Dominic was Mediterranean? NT
Digitalpotato
08/17/13 04:47 PM
xx * Sort of, he's half Italian and half Filipino. NT
FeministKilljoy
08/17/13 05:04 PM
xx * Oh, I didn't know he was half Filipino. o.o I knew he was Italian. (Like southern part - trust me that's olive skin.) NT
Digitalpotato
08/17/13 06:16 PM
xx * I totally agree and I think it would be very interesting to have a season where they flip it completely. NT
LuckyLizzie74
08/16/13 04:32 PM
xx * I think it's interesting how apposed people would be to the idea! I'm surprised really. NT
LuckyLizzie74
08/16/13 03:01 PM
xx * The US population by race (according to Wiki): Whites on 63.7% in the US yet get way more than that in the house.
LuckyLizzie74
08/16/13 02:27 PM
xx * I wonder how many people refuse to answer ( like my family ) and how that is counted NT
MsB
08/17/13 04:45 PM
xx * You Read Stats Wrong. US is 72% White.
scottzet
08/16/13 02:46 PM
xx * I might have gotten the wrong page but this is what I see: Non-Hispanic White or European American 196,817,552 63.7 % NT
LuckyLizzie74
08/16/13 03:00 PM
xx * You read that fine, the Hispanic/Latino numbers are broken down and one of the categories within the that category is white so the person you replied
FeministKilljoy
08/16/13 03:09 PM
xx * Yes, you need to add the lower table.
scottzet
08/16/13 03:39 PM
xx * Technically, white isn't a race either. When we speak of race and racism we are talking about social constructs. We've assigned people to different
FeministKilljoy
08/16/13 04:07 PM
xx * I was gonna write Caucasian, but it took up too many letters for my opening sentences! lol! NT
LuckyLizzie74
08/16/13 04:30 PM
xx * I think your post is fine, I understood what you were proposing just fine. :) NT
FeministKilljoy
08/16/13 04:33 PM
xx * Race is a proxy for a group of closely
scottzet
08/16/13 04:27 PM
xx * Oh, good lord. Next you're gonna start talking about eugenics. Yes, there are genetic differences between individuals. Race is still a social
FeministKilljoy
08/16/13 04:32 PM
xx * Social construct with a biological basis....
scottzet
08/16/13 05:31 PM
xx * Yes, that is useful, but it has very little to do with the concept of "race," especially as we see more genetic drift among populations.
FeministKilljoy
08/16/13 05:46 PM
xx * You are confusing concept of averages and groups vs individuals...
scottzet
08/16/13 05:57 PM
xx * I understand it very well, you don't know how to interpret modern research on genetic differences between populations and how that correlates with
FeministKilljoy
08/16/13 06:04 PM
xx * I'm sure this wasn't meant to be slightly condescending, but the statement
AngelsofCa
08/19/13 05:10 AM
xx * Typical PC anti-science
scottzet
08/16/13 06:31 PM
xx * Heh. I have to admit, this thread has been very entertaining. Thanks again for linking that article. :) NT
FeministKilljoy
08/16/13 06:40 PM
xx * Recently my friends & I were discussing racism & how it will never go away & I said, actually, racism is a form of classism. Racism may disappear, but
LuckyLizzie74
08/16/13 04:55 PM
xx * Infants recognize and sort themselves by race...
scottzet
08/16/13 05:35 PM
xx * Do you have a cite for that claim? Because race is a relatively modern concept. Historically groups such as the ancient Greeks and Romans
FeministKilljoy
08/16/13 05:55 PM
xx * Babies show same race preferences as early as 3 months...
scottzet
08/16/13 06:03 PM
xx * The title of the article invalidates your claim. It says right there that the difference is not seen in newborns, and after 3 months social and
FeministKilljoy
08/16/13 06:08 PM
xx * I thought everybody knew that it was learned. NT
Caramel
08/17/13 12:56 AM
xx * So did I. I guess some people didn't get the memo. NT
FeministKilljoy
08/17/13 01:07 AM
xx * I said infants, not newborns
scottzet
08/16/13 06:28 PM
xx * Did you read the article? I did. What you are claiming is the exact opposite of what the authors of the article are.
FeministKilljoy
08/16/13 06:30 PM
xx * Babies display race preference as early as three months...
scottzet
08/16/13 06:34 PM
xx * Dude. No. You are totally misreading the article. I was willing to read your evidence, the fact you presented some that argues the opposite of
FeministKilljoy
08/16/13 06:36 PM
xx * You are the one misreading the article. We are hard wired to have racial bias. By the age of 3 months....
scottzet
08/16/13 06:45 PM
xx * Read it again. If we were hardwired with a racial bias then newborns would show a preference. They didn't in the studies.
FeministKilljoy
08/16/13 06:48 PM
xx * Not what the study shows at all....
scottzet
08/17/13 12:15 AM
xx * I think a baby identifies with the person/s who care for them. Many babies have black or brown nannies. I think if babies show any preference
BlondeMoment
08/17/13 06:04 PM
xx * Seriously?
FeministKilljoy
08/17/13 12:38 AM
xx * It's such a complicated topic, but from my layman's pov, I very much agree that racism and classism are so closely interlinked
FeministKilljoy
08/16/13 05:02 PM
xx * Well-stated. NT
Caramel
08/17/13 12:57 AM
xx * I don't think he has to do with ethnicity. The show is stale & predictable. This cast speaks to to *how* stale and *how* predictable. NT
Iris
08/16/13 02:19 PM
xx * You're confusing skin color with ethnicity. For instance Hitler treated blacks better than jewish whites. Whites come in multiple flavors too. NT
Nusa
08/16/13 01:06 PM
xx * Exactly - genetically speaking, Middle Easterners and Indian people are white. So are most hispanics.
Digitalpotato
08/17/13 04:49 PM
xx * No, I'm just discussing lots of different aspects of the issue. I'm white: German, Irish, Scottish, English. But we've had the full white spectrum
LuckyLizzie74
08/16/13 01:46 PM
xx * The only reason that black people weren't incarcerated in large numbers during the holocaust is because there weren't large numbers of them living in
FeministKilljoy
08/16/13 01:16 PM
xx * Unfortunately, it'd never happen in the US. Hollywood has long thought that white audiences won't turn out or tune in for programs and movies
FeministKilljoy
08/16/13 12:56 PM
xx * I can see that this idea isn't really taking off, it seems people think making it non-white would make it about race, but making it all white's ok? NT
LuckyLizzie74
08/16/13 12:38 PM
xx * When have they had an all white cast? NT
JAF
08/16/13 12:46 PM
xx * Not sure, but I know they've had 90% white most of the time. NT
LuckyLizzie74
08/16/13 12:49 PM
xx * I think the percentage is a bit lower than that, but it depends on how you count people.
JAF
08/16/13 01:01 PM
xx * What percentage do you think it is this season? NT
IrishA
08/16/13 01:00 PM
xx * It's simple math. 12.5% black, 6% Asian, 81.5% white with one claiming a portion of Native American heritage. (+/- a few points) Why? NT
LuckyLizzie74
08/16/13 01:55 PM
xx * I'm what many called "half breed"...meaning most of my youth I was tormented
AngelsofCa
08/16/13 06:04 PM
xx * Hate it. It would just make race differentiation an even bigger deal. I want it to be NO deal. NT
JAF
08/16/13 12:30 PM
xx * It's worse when it's just a mostly white cast. It's just more common so everything thinks its normal. But it's not. NT
LuckyLizzie74
08/16/13 12:36 PM
xx * Not IMO. Just depends on the HGs. It's usually a non-issue, which is the way I prefer it. NT
JAF
08/16/13 12:49 PM
xx * Not feeling it
DonnaG
08/16/13 12:14 PM
xx * but you do understand that just because it would be all or mostly non-white doesn't mean it will be all the same ethnicity, right? It would be a
LuckyLizzie74
08/16/13 12:19 PM
xx * Something to think about.
DonnaG
08/16/13 12:43 PM
xx * Here's something else to think about, why is it that only the white people are supposedly not interested in watching cultures that aren't their own?
FeministKilljoy
08/16/13 01:05 PM
xx * Multiculturalism
DonnaG
08/16/13 01:37 PM
xx * I appreciate this response. I can rarely identify with people's culture because I grew up Pennsylvania Dutch and only like .0001% can relate! lol!
LuckyLizzie74
08/16/13 12:48 PM
xx * I think they recruit based off of the demographic of the viewers, that would be my guess.
JSpears5
08/16/13 11:53 AM
xx * But don't they kind of make race an issue when they have a mostly all white cast anyway? There were only 3 non whites this season and 1 non-hetero. NT
LuckyLizzie74
08/16/13 12:01 PM
xx * Cast was 81% white....
scottzet
08/16/13 02:55 PM
xx * How accurate can this be? Isn't Candice 50/50 more or less? NT
bb4peeker
08/16/13 04:19 PM
xx * In USA, one half black is considered black....
scottzet
08/17/13 05:31 PM
xx * Holy archaic terms, Batman. May I ask where you are from, because you've just stepped back in time 50 years or more with those terms you are
FeministKilljoy
08/17/13 05:42 PM
xx * I am from USA but have lived all over globe. And I don't think US media ever got your message about One Drop Rule....
scottzet
08/17/13 09:33 PM
xx * I don't know much about Tiger Woods other than he had a messy divorce and he identifies as multi-racial. I'm sure that there probably are people in
FeministKilljoy
08/17/13 09:43 PM
xx * Tiger refers to himself as "blasian". I have seen this in interviews. NT
BBAnnie
08/19/13 09:38 AM

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