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This is a response to: Of I were poor. My dogs would eat before me. Having a pet is a responsibility they can't feed themselves or get a job to do it. NT
TheLastSamurai
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As the transcription proved, she tried to feed the puppy and so did her grandmother. NT
10/14/16 05:46 AM





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* Make your own judgement on whether Danielle neglected her dog or not. I wrote up the entire convo of Danielle talking about her dog:
Megans
10/13/16 09:39 PM
xx * Most people don't go to the doctor for their own bodies because of the costs. I think she had a money issue, did what she thought was best and
petite6
10/15/16 11:18 AM
xx * that blue buffalo is bad stuff, I hope that place takes it off the shelf. poor puppy. NT
dollady
10/15/16 11:33 AM
xx * IMO it's neglect
finding
10/14/16 04:29 PM
xx * After just having a child why is she getting a puppy that is going to take up more of her time and energy anyways????
NeyNey75
10/14/16 03:02 PM
xx * Definitely not neglect. She did everything she could at the time. NT
bellahonor1
10/14/16 02:49 PM
xx * I think it is noteworthy that this happened years ago when she had her baby. Young, inexperienced, financially stressed by the sound of it. In my mind
emmbee
10/14/16 01:39 PM
xx * This. I agree with this. NT
BethC66
10/14/16 05:43 PM
xx * So would Dani or any mother just 'think' her child were being Fed by someone else as well, without asking similar 'did they eat today?
msmarya
10/14/16 11:56 AM
xx * Blue Buffalo has been sued because pets have died on their food. Are all those people guilty of neglect too? No. It sounds like the puppy may
Shea
10/14/16 09:37 AM
xx * people with pets must keep up with news and blue buff has been a very high profile article. the pet store is guilty of not pulling the food also
msmarya
10/14/16 12:02 PM
xx * If you search just about any major brand of dog food you will find lawsuits against them. If you refuse to feed your dog
InstantKarma
10/18/16 01:35 PM
xx * Common Decency -if you have neither the time nor the money to care for a pet, bring it to an animal shelter to be "rescued" or mercifully be put down
CommentCents
10/14/16 09:05 AM
xx * She stated the puppy was doing better and was left with her mom while she was away. Very important details that are being ignored. NT
WillRulz
10/14/16 05:12 AM
xx * Indeed. Considering all the facts is imperative before attempting to pass judgment. Reasonableness must be determined under the circumstances. NT
TheLastSamurai
10/14/16 05:50 AM
xx * I'm over Dani - and this is just one more reason why. There are times where I am floating in money and times where I'm broke as hell.
killthewabbit *
10/14/16 04:18 AM
xx * OMG! REREAD the TRANSCRIPT! The puppy didn't *REFUSE* to eat. No one ever FED the dog! Dani thought her MOM was feeding it! DANI.starved.that.dog.NT
KatOnAHotPC
10/13/16 11:02 PM
xx * Not was she said .They didnt realize the dog wasnt eating because the bowl was full and thought the other was filling it NT
metalton
10/14/16 02:00 PM
xx * Not what she said. NT
Megans
10/14/16 09:14 PM
xx * That is NOT what she said!
Bklyngrl28
10/14/16 05:42 AM
xx * Thanks Megan. IMO, the dog was refusing to eat but Danielle acted irresponsibly by ignoring the situation. This was a puppy! Puppies GROW. (contd)
KatOnAHotPC
10/13/16 10:38 PM
xx * Thanks. That is neglect. (failing to provide veterinary services as needed) It's a real living dog that got ill and then wouldn't eat. I can't w/ her
Thunderclap *
10/13/16 10:16 PM
xx * She's an idiot. NT
ratso
10/13/16 09:52 PM
xx * I want Dani evicted & I want her to be a HN before she leaves, but she's just a young woman with a sick puppy that may have died no matter what. NT
TheLastSamurai
10/13/16 09:51 PM
xx * It died b/c SHE didn't feed her dog. She got a dog & NEVER FED IT. Read the transcript. She ASSUMED her MOTHER fed her dog. SHE NEVER FED HER DOG. NT
KatOnAHotPC
10/13/16 10:49 PM
xx * I've read the transcription. Your perception of what it says is different than mine. NT
TheLastSamurai
10/13/16 10:57 PM
xx * She didn't even take it to the vet. NT
ratso
10/13/16 09:55 PM
xx * The death was unexpected. Puppies sometimes die quickly. This one did. She talked about the circumstances. They acted reasonably. NT
TheLastSamurai
10/13/16 10:01 PM
xx * She absolutely did not act reasonably! She went to what amounts to basically a feed store for their opinion. Even if the dog did have parvo
binkie94
10/13/16 10:05 PM
xx * The puppy was doing better. She left it with her mother. She did not purposely kill the animal. Facts are being ignored. NT
WillRulz
10/14/16 05:14 AM
xx * I find she acted reasonably under the circumstances. That is my judgment. Yours may differ. NT
TheLastSamurai
10/13/16 10:17 PM
xx * The puppy didn't die so quickly that she couldn't have taken it to the vet. If an animal refuses to eat and is limp and lethargic, I don't agree
ratso
10/13/16 10:04 PM
xx * I find her conduct reasonable, and think that objectively her conduct was reasonable under the circumstances. Your opinion may differ. NT
TheLastSamurai
10/13/16 10:12 PM
xx * So let the dog suffer until it dies? She should have never gotten a dog in the first place NT
binkie94
10/13/16 09:52 PM
xx * I've read the complete dialogue. She didn't know the dog was dying. The death was unexpected. Puppy mill puppies often die early, usually of parvo. NT
TheLastSamurai
10/13/16 09:58 PM
xx * If you see your dog isn't doing well and getting weak you should have enough common sense to take it to the vet to find out what's wrong with it NT
binkie94
10/13/16 09:59 PM
xx * She explained what took place, what her work and other activities were, and how she was dealing with the matter. It was reasonable. NT
TheLastSamurai
10/13/16 10:04 PM
xx * If a child is limp & refuses to eat for days on end should you ask people at the grocery store what to do about it and not bother with a doctor? NT
ratso
10/13/16 10:09 PM
xx * A dog is not a child. There is a much, much higher duty when caring for a child. NT
TheLastSamurai
10/13/16 10:14 PM
xx * No excuses. A dog should be treated with the same love and respect as a child should. If people can't do that then they shouldn't get a pet. NT
Fleurie
10/13/16 10:32 PM
xx * Disagree, and under the law the duty to a child is much, much higher than to a dog, which is considered property. NT
TheLastSamurai
10/13/16 10:37 PM
xx * The Oregon Supreme Court ruled that all animals shall be afforded the same basic protections as human beings. More states are ruling this way
r2rn
10/14/16 10:37 PM
xx * That was NOT their ruling. They ruled under existing law and made no such rulings about animal rights. Here are the HOLDINGS in both cases.>>
TheLastSamurai
10/15/16 08:49 AM
xx * Dani expl it was neighbors pesticides that killed the puppy like Nicole's pet, the story exploited to support Dani's eviction. Like Monte, she's
HarleyQ
10/15/16 09:04 AM
xx * Wow. Unbelievable. NT
Fleurie
10/13/16 10:39 PM
xx * I have children and dogs. I also know the law regarding both. I would never consider a dog as important as a child. NT
TheLastSamurai
10/13/16 10:43 PM
xx * Clearly you don't consider dogs to be important at all cause if you did you would KNOW getting a puppy and not taking it to the vet and letting it
Fleurie
10/13/16 10:45 PM
xx * I do consider dogs important. I have 7 of them. They live the way dogs should live - freely. Country dogs. Not every puppy in a litter survives. NT
TheLastSamurai
10/13/16 10:52 PM
xx * Of I were poor. My dogs would eat before me. Having a pet is a responsibility they can't feed themselves or get a job to do it. NT
willwill
10/14/16 03:17 AM
xx * As the transcription proved, she tried to feed the puppy and so did her grandmother. NT
TheLastSamurai
10/14/16 05:46 AM
xx * The transcript proved no such thing. That is a claim Dani made. Claims are not proof. NT
Blockhead
10/15/16 09:07 AM
xx * Direct testimony by a person with knowledge IS proof, and Dani is the ONLY person in the house with personal knowledge. It's proof, unrebutted. NT
TheLastSamurai
10/15/16 10:31 AM
xx * It is a claim and not proof. Her self serving statement wasn't under oath and there's no corroboration of her claim. NT
Blockhead
10/15/16 10:37 AM
xx * It IS proof. Testimony by a person with knowledge is the most common form of proof. It is the ONLY proof in this matter. It requires no corroboration.
TheLastSamurai
10/15/16 10:48 AM
xx * So Victoria was carried away off a beach by a crow. But we know that isn't true. The audience can evaluate the claims based on what was
Blockhead
10/15/16 10:56 AM
xx * The only issue is Dani's story about her puppy's demise. No part of it defies logic or common knowledge. It's the ONLY evidence regarding this. NT
TheLastSamurai
10/15/16 11:07 AM
xx * WTF? She is EXACTLY the type of person who shouldn't own any animal. If she doesn't have the time or the money to care for an animal don't get one! NT
binkie94
10/13/16 10:07 PM
xx * I didn't hear the remark, but you should be able to afford a child or pet before you have/get one, because they can be expensive! NT
ShrewLou
10/13/16 10:37 PM
xx * The OP transcribed the entire conversation for all to read. It's enlightening to give the complete story available. NT
TheLastSamurai
10/13/16 10:39 PM
xx * Thank you. I did read it. Glad I did, too, so now I know what everybody's talking about. NT
ShrewLou
10/13/16 11:00 PM
xx * It is my judgment that she acted reasonably under the circumstances. NT
TheLastSamurai
10/13/16 10:13 PM
xx * And it is my judgment that it was far from reasonable. Not hard to tell who should never own an animal NT
binkie94
10/13/16 10:16 PM
xx * I have a ranch. I'm accustomed to dealing with all manner of animals. Sometimes they have to be put down. Sometimes they require a vet all night.>
TheLastSamurai
10/13/16 10:26 PM
xx * I agree sometimes they do have to be put down but she didn't do that! She let the dog suffer and die. How that can be considered "reasonable" is
binkie94
10/13/16 10:56 PM
xx * I acknowledge that we view this incident differently, hence our different conclusions about it. Sometimes people who shouldn't have dogs get them.>
TheLastSamurai
10/13/16 11:17 PM
xx * Hold up, I thought that Danielle's conduct was reasonable? Can her conduct be reasonable, ignorant, and careless simultaneously? By submitting that
ratso
10/13/16 11:36 PM
xx * Her conduct was reasonable. Yes, conduct can be ignorant and reasonable. It happens all the time. NT
TheLastSamurai
10/14/16 05:44 AM
xx * Sounds like neglect to me. NT
Blackheart
10/13/16 09:50 PM
xx * Thanks for that. NT
SweeBee
10/13/16 09:50 PM
xx * Yeah ... someone on twitter told me I had lied about it, and if we're gonna be talking about it for the next week, it should be out in the open NT
Megans
10/13/16 09:53 PM
xx * There's an easy link straight to the video on Reddit, too, if anyone wants to see it on mobile or anywhere without flashbacks. NT
Saedron
10/13/16 10:09 PM
xx * F her. Don't get a pet if you don't have money to take care for it. NT
mokhashin
10/13/16 09:48 PM
xx * Exactly! I hate people that go out and get a dog or any animal because it's cute and don't think about how they'll pay for the vet if it gets sick NT
binkie94
10/13/16 09:50 PM
xx * Who leaves their dog outside all the time and not give it it's shots first? Wasn't there a story Nicole told us about how her dog was neglected and di
LillyBell
10/13/16 09:46 PM
xx * Didn't kalia talk about abusing her dog? NT
poisonstar
10/13/16 09:52 PM
xx * Yes and she caught sh*t for it. She said something about throwing it at the wall. I believe it was a Yorkie NT
binkie94
10/13/16 09:53 PM
xx * Unfortunately, a lot of IGNORANT people NT
binkie94
10/13/16 09:51 PM
xx * I missed the bug spray part. No shots/outside and bug spray? NT
RugratBB
10/13/16 09:49 PM
xx * Disgusting. NT
mintchip
10/13/16 09:45 PM
xx * :( NT
LettucePray
10/13/16 09:45 PM
xx * Wow, that's horrible. NT
Saedron
10/13/16 09:44 PM
xx * f**king despicable NT
nicholaspuppy
10/13/16 09:43 PM
xx * This B-iotch has my vote for eviction for sure! I have no respect for her at all after this. NT
judywoo
10/13/16 09:58 PM
xx * She should have NEVER bought the puppy if she couldn't afford Vet care. NT
SunnyInAZ
10/13/16 09:41 PM
xx * I don't understand how she didn't borrow 10-20 bucks from a pal when she saw the dog starving itself to see if that would have resolved it NT
RugratBB
10/13/16 09:40 PM
xx * most pet stores, rescue places, and vets will also give food for free or discount. People just need to ask. NT
nicholaspuppy
10/13/16 09:50 PM
xx * Or her mom? NT
ElegantlyWasted
10/13/16 09:46 PM

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