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*Does anyone have any substantial knowledge of which seasons the most commonly used phrases in the house were started?
bbfan661332 3   10/13/13 11:16 PM
x*"Thrown under the bus" is a bit more universal, but "back door" came about circa BB5 thanks to the ability to back door people with the new veto rules
tv_savage11/15/13 01:34 PM
x*I believe things like "thrown under the bus" and "back door" has been around way longer then BB....even "on the block". NT
NJcathie10/18/13 02:17 PM
x*I suspect the OP means when did the terminology begin on BB. OTB was in season one. NT
BBAnnie10/24/13 06:31 PM
*10 Signs You're In Too Deep And Need To Dial Back Your BB Obsession.
eibeh007586 2   09/26/13 09:14 AM
x*I think 6 is unfair. I enjoy coming here to read/talk to others that have a common interest. NT
AZ_Cards_1109/26/13 05:19 PM
x*lol! So funny! I find myself guilty of #8, #9, #10! lol! And I would be guilty of #6 if it was say...30 mins. This is hysterical, love it! NT
LuckyLizzie7409/26/13 05:07 PM
*Saw this on Twitter, in regards to Andy's gameplay
CJinIowa1795 15   09/25/13 07:41 PM
x*Funny, the "coward" mentality describes Will and Dan just as much as it describes Andy. Especially Dan. Dan was too chicken to roll the dice with
Ephandis10/01/13 07:53 AM
x*agree with dan.....now take dr will out of this combo or splain yourself NT
Belle10/04/13 09:05 AM
x*Will? Will told people to put him on the block. Andy cried. NT
jovoh10/04/13 09:05 AM
x*You do realize Dan was trying to get Jenn F2 all along right? He tried taking shots at Ian but was unsuccessful. 3 worst case scenarios:
Kay1910/03/13 07:12 AM
x*Ian winning all those comps only cemented the fact that Dan couldn't win against him. Still he saved Ian over Shane. Because Dan can ONLY scheme. NT
Ephandis10/03/13 12:45 PM
x*I couldn't agree more. The last sentence sums it up perfectly.
CubbyPuppy10/02/13 08:48 AM
x*Andy played a rat/floater game and that won the game for him. He should be proud being a savvy floater.
Neonis10/01/13 10:30 PM
x*I'm not sure where the "floater" stigma comes from. LOTS of players navigate between competing alliances. NT
Ephandis10/02/13 01:26 PM
x*I said it in another section but I think most of these reality show players have a large percentage of fear in every second of their game play. The
LuckyLizzie7409/26/13 05:10 PM
x*I agree with this 150%! You nailed it right on the head. Andy played a scared floater and he needs to own up to it because he did win. NT
Neonis09/26/13 02:09 PM
x*I dislike Andy and don't think he's one of the better BB winners. That said, I don't agree much with this analysis. I think it's pointless to...
jovoh09/26/13 06:40 AM
x*I like this post too. NT
LuckyLizzie7409/26/13 05:11 PM
x*That really is an excellent piece
SG809/25/13 08:00 PM
x*I would have loved for him to have lost to Elissa. NT
CJinIowa09/25/13 08:04 PM
x*You and me both. I also would have loved to see him on the block for a week as the target. He would have put Amber to shame. NT
SG809/25/13 08:05 PM
*The thing about apologies.
LeftTurn1689 14   09/19/13 08:03 PM
x*Andy, Aaryn, Amanda & Spencer are just not likable....we saw who they are, the feeds did not lie, NT
spikewells10/08/13 06:15 PM
x*truth be told: andy could apologize non-stop for a month and be 100 percent sincere & the some people will still hate him, its naïve to think not NT
naomii09/26/13 08:14 AM
x*People will believe it or not. When I wrote the OP, I was talking about how to apologize to make it seem believable. Maybe I'm in the minority, but
LeftTurn09/26/13 05:20 PM
x*What exactly do people want Andy to apologize for? His sense of humor? NT
FurnitureAlliance10/09/13 11:13 PM
x*I agree. Not qualified. Just to the point. Apologizing "if I offended anyone" is a cop out. Apologizing "to those I offended" is a bit better. NT
bbfan66110/09/13 10:56 PM
x*Absolutely. Most here that hate the HG's don't believe any of their apologies, what would make it any different in this case? Nothing, IMO. NT
LuckyLizzie7409/26/13 05:12 PM
x*ITA. People complain that they don't apologize then complain when they don't believe the apology. Like we need to be apologized to by HG. None
ELPhill10/20/13 09:49 PM
x*Every1's entitled 2their own opinion. Andy's an immature child/boy. Not a man, but simply a child that hasn't been exposed to
surfs_upgurlz09/25/13 08:30 AM
x*I agree. The way he's done it so far tells me he's not sorry for what he did, and he doesn't think what he did was wrong. NT
CJinIowa09/20/13 09:59 AM
x*I'm responsible for my own feelings, I don't need an "apology" from anyone. It always amuses me when people think they are "owed" something. NT
Ephandis10/01/13 07:55 AM
x*Or he just isn't really that concerned about what fans think. He'll learn quickly that no matter what he says,
JAF09/20/13 10:14 AM
x*Yes he will also learn quickly that 500 K will not go far !!
ellen809/27/13 06:54 AM
x*hopefully he'll get hold of his finances and make some good decisions before its all gone. thats a lot of money to blow NT
Belle09/27/13 06:55 AM
x*Great post! NT
nycszq09/20/13 09:58 AM
*Did the fans ruin BB15 more than anything else did? The answer is Yes.
tv_savage13179 152   09/19/13 04:39 AM
x*By your own words.....
CheeseFries10/10/13 06:28 AM
x*They are to blame for what they did. And fans are to blame for the way they reacted, in distressingly large numbers NT
frustratedposter10/11/13 07:52 PM
x*the fact remains, had the HG's not been so vile, the fans wouldnt have reacted in the way they did. its not the fans fault this season was horrid NT
CheeseFries10/12/13 05:11 AM
x*so if Jeopardy started infusing racial slurs & pedophile comments into the game, fans of the show should just roll with it? Ha! I THINK NOT!! NT
spikewells10/08/13 06:21 PM
x*You make absolutely no sense. BB producers did not "infuse racial slurs/pedophile comments" into the game. That is the product of an unscripted format
tv_savage11/05/13 12:44 AM
x*I think for this reason it's gonna get harder and harder to find people willing to do BB. To do the show is to ask for intense scrutiny of your
FurnitureAlliance11/05/13 01:23 AM
x*Perhaps that is why so many cast members are brainless and vapid these days :) NT
tv_savage11/08/13 03:50 PM
x*Exactly. NT
CJinIowa10/08/13 06:31 PM
x*The answer is NO. The racist, misogynistic, homophobic hg's ruined it for everyone. NT
DaisyChain10/07/13 03:23 PM
x*I want to respond to the part about Spencer.
ellen809/27/13 06:58 AM
x*lather. rinse. repeat NT
naomii09/26/13 01:57 AM
x*They ruin it by trying to "force" their way of life onto others. Posts show they try and force the way people(on BB & in forums)talk, think and act NT
Pugsley09/22/13 10:53 PM
x*This is true. I feel like a lot of people want everyone to march in goose-step. Personally I prefer live and let live NT
FurnitureAlliance09/26/13 05:24 PM
x*One might even say they try to bully people into falling in line with their point of view NT
FurnitureAlliance09/23/13 02:06 PM
x*Logic, reason, calling for the treatment of others with a modicum of basic decency is not bullying. NT
SG809/23/13 02:40 PM
x**Faulty logic NT
tv_savage09/23/13 03:28 PM
x*Hardly. It's human decency NT
CJinIowa09/25/13 09:01 PM
x*Ah, the tyranny of "human decency", which can mean whatever you want it to mean. NT
Ephandis10/01/13 07:59 AM
x*So if I say I try to treat others as I would like to be treated that makes me tyrannical? That's a new one to me. NT
LeftTurn10/01/13 08:27 AM
x*Yeah, basic politeness equals tyranny. Makes perfect sense. NT
SG810/01/13 08:33 AM
x*But there is no universal definition! We are tyrants! How should we now proceed with our agenda of decency? Oh, the power, can you feel it? NT
LeftTurn10/01/13 08:41 AM
x*Start by saying "hello" and "please" and "thank you" to people and if they don't reciprocate then just keep doing it to the next person. NT
SG810/01/13 08:44 AM
x*Sounds dangerous. Heh. :) NT
LeftTurn10/01/13 08:47 AM
x*I'm with Pugsley on this one. NT
madjellybean09/23/13 01:32 PM
x*Agree absolutely with everything you said except; "Categorically, Big Brother 15 will go down as one of the worst seasons ever…".....
bb4peeker09/22/13 04:04 AM
x*You nailed it - categorically, meaning when people look back and recall what their least favorite/worst season was, BB15 will spring to mind NT
tv_savage09/22/13 03:34 PM
x*This actually was one of my favorite seasons! NT
bb4peeker09/29/13 03:28 AM
x*I liked it as well, but I liked BB9, too, and in general, people tend to look back on that season with dissatisfaction NT
tv_savage10/01/13 01:54 PM
x*What a great post! It's so nice to read a totally rational, reasonable post! NT
ShrewLou09/21/13 07:32 PM
x*How could the fans ruin BB15 when they had only a little bit of influence at the beginning of the game with the MVP vote? It seems you just didn't
jovoh09/21/13 02:44 AM
x*To be as specific as possible, a "collection" of fans ruined the "experience" of Big Brother 15 for me. I actually don't dislike this past season...
tv_savage09/21/13 04:34 AM
x*Yeah, I just felt that you were baiting us by not including "for me" in the thread title. NT
jovoh09/26/13 05:18 AM
x*Wow, tv, I have so much respect for you. You said it better than I ever could. NT
FurnitureAlliance09/21/13 07:19 PM
x*Thank you! NT
tv_savage09/21/13 08:17 PM
x*Thanks for writing what I didn't have time to! agree! NT
cynmhutc09/20/13 11:14 PM
x*Great post TV. You said pretty much what I have felt all season. NT
jerrijan09/20/13 11:05 PM
x*Thank you, tv. Such a well-written article deserves to be published, it's that good. And you're only 23? APPLY FOR BB ASAP NT
FurnitureAlliance09/20/13 07:24 PM
x*Thanks for the love, FurnitureAlliance! You're the best!! NT
tv_savage09/20/13 10:37 PM
x*;) NT
FurnitureAlliance09/21/13 07:23 PM
x*While I agree with you on the reactions of the fans, that isn't what ruined BB 15 for me. It did make me realize that their are a lot of people in
trifecta09/20/13 08:40 AM
x*Helen's strategy was so transparent, but being newbies they didn't see through it. Yes she was awful and I can't believe they let her get away with
FurnitureAlliance09/20/13 07:37 PM
x*"STFU Helen!" ITA, it didn't help that there was not a whole lot going on in the game to distract me from some of the crazy fans NT
tv_savage09/20/13 03:51 PM
x*If the fans had nothing to talk about this would not be an issue. You're not putting the blame where it belongs. The BB15 cast said and did all that
Caramel09/20/13 05:15 AM
x*No, not exactly. I encourage discussion on racism & homophobia. I discourage the perpetuation of "facts" that are not true NT
tv_savage09/20/13 03:53 PM
x*By the way no the fans did NOT ruin BB15. This season was one big house vote. That's why it was awful, not because of Twitter conversations. NT
UnproductiveBB09/19/13 10:27 PM
x*You contradict yourself though. You say.. (inside)
UnproductiveBB09/19/13 10:25 PM
x*You are one person, but many many people called for the houseguests to be silenced one way or another NT
FurnitureAlliance09/20/13 07:40 PM
x*Objecting to racism and homophobia is great. Calling Spencer a pedophile when he is not one is not right. NT
tv_savage09/20/13 03:50 AM
x*He sure thinks like one, the things that came out of his mouth are always sexual who even thinks about someone drinking 55 gals of c** NT
Aprilsky09/20/13 05:03 AM
x*Someone trying to be shocking? I just don't follow how he thought like a pedophile... NT
tv_savage09/20/13 05:13 AM
x*People I know don't think it's funny to joke about toddlers being raped in a basement. NT
CJinIowa09/20/13 05:27 AM
x*Same! It sucks that they cast someone that said that, but what formula would one go about predicintg whether Spe would make jokes like that? NT
tv_savage09/20/13 05:30 AM
x*How about simply asking potential HGs in interviews if they find jokes about raping children to be funny? With Spencer, it was not a one-time thing.
chicagoloopy09/24/13 06:07 PM
x*Not sure but it still doesn't make it right or a joke. NT
CJinIowa09/20/13 05:58 AM
x*Does it make it ok to call Spencer a pedophile when we know the police have gone through his house and hard drive and found nothing. There have
FurnitureAlliance09/20/13 07:44 PM
x*who's calling him a pedophile???? OMG! Wow... NT
LuckyLizzie7409/26/13 05:23 PM
x*Read all the comments NT
FurnitureAlliance09/26/13 05:28 PM
x*I don't think anyone has called him a pedophile but it is impossible to prove he is not one. NT
SG809/26/13 05:30 PM
x*and again, following your same logic, it is impossible to prove that he is one NT
tv_savage09/27/13 02:52 PM
x*Calling him out for joking about babies being raped in a basement is different. NT
CJinIowa09/20/13 04:58 AM
x*How do you know for a fact he is not a pedophile? What proof do you have? NT
SG809/20/13 04:03 AM
x*Are we now Guilty until proven Innocent? This is where I think we are crossing a line. The police have been involved and cleared him. NT
LuckyLizzie7409/26/13 05:24 PM
x*The police investigated and cleared Gary Ridgway in the Green River killer case. He went on to murder at least 70 women. Cops can screw up. NT
SG809/26/13 05:29 PM
x*Seriously?? Oh good lord. I'm sorry but really?? Wow... NT
LuckyLizzie7409/27/13 10:38 AM
x*I knooooow... NT
tv_savage09/27/13 02:53 PM
x*It does take a warped mind to even go there...so, yeah. NT
laurajhuff09/22/13 10:06 AM
x*Please... NT
tv_savage09/20/13 04:48 AM
x*Please, what? NT
SG809/20/13 04:50 AM
x*Please calm down. NT
tv_savage09/20/13 05:14 AM
x*I'm perfectly calm. I have seen no evidence to prove that Spencer is not a pedophile and have inquired for the basis of that claim.
SG809/20/13 05:22 AM
x*I think this country's motto is "innocent until proven guilty..." but nice try NT
tv_savage09/20/13 10:43 PM
x*So the police investigation instigated by Union Pacific wasn't good enough to prove it? It turned up no evidence of pedophilia. NT
FurnitureAlliance09/20/13 07:46 PM
x*No, not at all. Gary Ridgeway was the Green River Killer and early in the investigation he was questioned, polygraphed, released and eliminated as
SG809/23/13 02:38 PM
x*:) i like the way you think. NT
cynmhutc09/20/13 08:37 PM
x*In that case, it is impossible to prove ANYONE is not a pedophile. NT
cynmhutc09/20/13 01:31 PM
x*Right. So he may or may not be a pedophile. Just like McCrae. NT
tv_savage09/20/13 05:28 AM
x*More than most if he was in fact investigated. Or at least good at not leave breadcrumbs behind NT
frustratedposter09/20/13 04:36 AM
x*It is...what it is. Nothing ruined. BB15 -- a big mirror of our times from HGs AND fans...for better and for worse. NT
BBenthusiast09/19/13 04:10 PM
tv_savage09/20/13 05:15 AM
x*you give us too much credit, you can't ruin something that is already destroyed. NT
spikewells09/19/13 03:01 PM
x*Let’s Break Down Just Which Fans
Mikentosh09/19/13 10:23 AM
x*Re-education camps for Big Brother houseguests? That's a bit much. Let them reflect on what has happened. Let them grow from this. I wish them
FurnitureAlliance09/20/13 07:56 PM
x*For the record, I have always loved Jokers and the community here so I hope that none of the fans here took what I said to heart...
tv_savage09/20/13 04:57 AM
x*I agree with Mikentosh that a lot of those people were probably not regulars, just people pushing an agenda and then disappearing again NT
FurnitureAlliance09/20/13 08:02 PM
x*I think he nailed it and so did you in your concise description. That was the problem this season. NT
BBAnnie09/23/13 09:14 AM
x*I am shocked about you Mikentosh.....
SizzleGA09/19/13 12:00 PM
x*No, but Mom enjoys it. Seldom I can enjoy an episode when there is someone with a bigger problem than wanting to be on TV. NT
Mikentosh09/19/13 08:24 PM
x*Not to mention Dr. Phil himself! It's easy to call someone stupid for their actions, quite another to actually help someone with a problem. NT
FurnitureAlliance09/20/13 08:06 PM
x*Thank you for this! NT
MaryAnn09/19/13 11:13 AM
x*ITA, especially your first few sentences. I've never been a fan of the PC Police, and the PC Police were on steroids this season.
JAF09/19/13 09:36 AM
x*It sucks when the PC Police label everything. NT
SG809/19/13 11:47 AM
x*By definition BIG BROTHER= P C, ill be the first to point out knee jerk reactions , but thats not whats this is NT
Aprilsky09/19/13 09:47 AM
x*I hate that it migrated so much from BBD to Media & News, etc. ... it's easy to stay out of BBD, like to keep up in other forums NT
Bilbo09/19/13 09:42 AM
x*Yes, the usage of Celebrity Dirty Laundry for "News" was horrifying. NT
tv_savage09/20/13 05:00 AM
x*It also spoiled the BB InDepth Forum for me this season. NT
SizzleGA09/19/13 12:02 PM
x*Okay let's pretend all those comments didn't happen. What were you actually going to discuss? Reality: season 15 lacked gaming. NT
UnproductiveBB09/21/13 05:33 AM
x*I guess Amanda wasn't intending to hurt Elissa with the sr door she always opens doors with such might and anger NT
Aprilsky09/19/13 09:28 AM
x*Ridiculous to blame the fans. Production was absolutely complicit in the disaster that was BB15 so blaming them is justified but...
MaryAnn09/19/13 09:05 AM
x*Personally, I thought the original concept of BB was to cast controversial people... maybe not to THIS extreme, but...
tv_savage09/20/13 05:12 AM
x*Original concept was not so much controversial people but people from different walks of life to see how they could learn to live together in a
BBAnnie09/23/13 09:20 AM
x*True... but we can't deny that over time, the "people from different walks of life" morphed into "people that might stir up controversy"
tv_savage09/23/13 03:27 PM
x*I won't disagree with that. I mean if you think about it Mega was controversial. Jordan was controversial. Even Karen and her issues made her
BBAnnie09/24/13 09:33 AM
x*Early BBs would cast gay people with Conservatives (Bunky & Kent), strippers with beauty queens, etc. They always want sparks to fly. NT
FurnitureAlliance09/25/13 04:00 AM
x*They do but I don't think they would ever have been cool with the level to which reality TV casts have sunk in the last five years or so. thanks
BBAnnie09/25/13 08:27 AM
x*I agree! Also think It's funny to look at the casts of reality shows from 2000/2001 and see how "real" people look compared to...
tv_savage09/24/13 12:52 PM
x*Your post should be the top post it is well thought out and a more accurate analysis. NT
ratts09/19/13 10:50 AM
Aprilsky09/19/13 09:15 AM
x*What context does child porn go in exactly?!? NT
Aprilsky09/19/13 08:58 AM
x*the context is that it was a joke about mcrae and had nothing to do with child porn. NT
BleacherBum09/19/13 11:03 AM
x*Child porn is not a joke in any context these ppl know they are being watched by the public and we had every right to react to stupidity not a joke NT
Aprilsky09/20/13 03:27 AM
x*That doesn't make it not a joke. It was just a joke that you didn't like. NT
JAF09/20/13 05:56 AM
x*Actually it isn't a joke, at all. A toddler being penetrated while they lay there crying out in pain and fear is not a ha ha subject. This ruins
CJinIowa09/20/13 05:57 AM
x*People make jokes about the Holocaust. It happens. Doesn't mean they're going to go out and commit genocide. Cable humor is rife with it. NT
Ephandis10/01/13 08:03 AM
x*Which is irrelevant to whether he was using it as a joking razz vs seriously supporting it. Call it a terrible joke, or an inappropriate joke,
JAF09/20/13 06:18 AM
x*I found it inappropriate and inexcusable humor. It doesn't make him a pedophile but it just isn't something to be joked about IMHO. NT
BBAnnie09/23/13 09:22 AM
x*More specifically, he was trying to make production laugh on a boring night. Funny or not, it was intended as a joke. NT
FurnitureAlliance09/20/13 08:38 PM
x*But isn't it a lot more fun to be offended? Plus, it makes me look oh-so-saintly. NT
Ephandis10/01/13 08:06 AM
x*Excellent question. This "out of context" doesn't fly with me. I watched most of this on the feeds so it was IN context and extremely offensive. NT
Theory09/19/13 09:13 AM
x*out of context, meaning, Spencer's comment about jacking off to child porn was made bc he was trying to make McCrae sound like a creep/bad/whatever
tv_savage09/20/13 05:22 AM
x*Or that he really supports child porn because he happened to reference it in a joking razz. Hell, Dean Martin & Co did "roasts"
JAF09/20/13 06:14 AM
x*I wonder if he thought about what those babies went through while they were being subject to pain and fear and terror when he made that joke. NT
CJinIowa09/20/13 05:59 AM
x*Just because he failed to think of the consequences of his words does not mean it is not out of context NT
tv_savage09/20/13 06:11 AM
x*It's like someone razzing their friend by calling them an MF. Does that mean they really support the action of them F-ing their M? No, of course not.
JAF09/20/13 06:30 AM
x*I don't think anyone is saying it is an endorsement of child porn. They are saying it is an inappropriate subject matter because children are being
SG809/20/13 06:34 AM
x*If some didn't think it was more than a joking razz, then why the pedophile accusations? Taking such a leap pretty clearly shows they
JAF09/20/13 06:39 AM
x*I submit the amount of detail is the reason so many took offense. There was more than the subject like jerking off to kiddie porn. NT
Mikentosh09/20/13 02:02 PM
x*Spencer is 32 years old and has probably read books & articles or watched movies or tv shows addressing child porn. So it's possible he has knowledge
FurnitureAlliance09/20/13 08:57 PM
x*Who has accused him of being a pedophile? NT
SG809/20/13 06:40 AM
x*Just search the various BB forums for the word, or similar suggests for the same thing. You'll find it directed at Spencer.
JAF09/20/13 06:43 AM
x*I just searched BBD and InDepth and most if not all the posts say Sp is not a pedophile. NT
SG809/20/13 06:47 AM
x*I edited that too slowly, and now see you replied before my edit. I've seen more of it in BBD but that rolls off the end too fast.
JAF09/20/13 06:55 AM
x*which means it is in response to someone saying he is :) NT
Bilbo09/20/13 06:49 AM
x*Not necessarily. There are posts that say something to the effect of "People say Sp is a pedophile but..." However, I don't see the posts that claim
SG809/20/13 06:52 AM
x*i've seen tons of posts saying he is ... but then I guess I'm lying too NT
Bilbo09/20/13 07:04 AM
x*Please point out where I accused anyone of lying. Thank you. NT
SG809/20/13 07:10 AM
x*you didn't say the word specifically, but you show your doubt of our statements ... same thing NT
Bilbo09/20/13 07:15 AM
x*No, not the same thing. I choose my words carefully. NT
SG809/20/13 07:17 AM
x*exactly .. and i'm not gonna continue to play your silly little 'prove it' game NT
Bilbo09/20/13 07:18 AM
x*Fine. It's sad that you think logic, evidence, standards of proof are silly little games. And thanks for the false accusation! NT
SG809/20/13 07:23 AM
x*Quit tainting the post! NT
tv_savage09/20/13 02:24 PM
x*Well the fans should just poof go away cause we made these hg say outrageous statements they are already backtracking and we were wrong to care! NT
Aprilsky09/19/13 08:43 AM
x*Excellent and spot on take of what went down. NT
Noles8809/19/13 06:55 AM
x*Thank you! NT
tv_savage09/20/13 05:23 AM
SG809/19/13 04:49 AM
x*Well said! I believe if a HG or production would have said anything in week 1 or 2, it would have made a difference. The acceptance was the culprit NT
MaryAnn09/19/13 09:07 AM
x*I agree with No...without fans there would be no BB..and fans have the right to express how they feel when watching one of their favorite shows NT
rodh09/19/13 07:30 AM
x*Did you read? Never said ANYTHING about them not deserving to lose their jobs... NT
tv_savage09/19/13 04:53 AM
x*Yes, I did and blaming the fans is ludicrous. The fault lies with the HGs not with the "overly sensitive" people who complained. NT
SG809/19/13 04:56 AM
x*to quote one of you jokers "THAT" NT
dollady09/19/13 07:53 AM
x*I think it's all in how you react to what is presented to you...
tv_savage09/19/13 05:16 AM
x*Really? A "majority"? Their own words are what vilified them... NT
MaryAnn09/19/13 09:23 AM
x*I couldn't say it any better. NT
CJinIowa09/19/13 04:51 AM
*Okay hit me with it, I know I am in the minority. What has Elissa done to garner your love? I do not see it.
JSpears52448 29   09/18/13 11:53 AM
x*1,She handled the worst harassment in bb history!And she doesn't even know how bad it was , can't wait to find out what she thinks about the door NT
Aprilsky09/19/13 08:50 AM
x*I think Jen from S8 got even worse treatment in the house but do agree that Elissa suffered. NT
DaisyChain09/30/13 07:39 AM
x*Plain and simple, I fell for Elissa's kindness
ilja09/28/13 01:11 PM
x*Totally agree! In a season of unlikable hg's Elissa was one of the few decent human beings in that house. NT
DaisyChain09/30/13 07:40 AM
x*in my case, i wanted to protect her, they started a hate thing right at the start. especially spencer. NT
dollady09/19/13 07:55 AM
x*She rose above the din and squalor that populated this season's house and I don't think I could maintain proper decorum under her duress. NT
rodh09/19/13 07:32 AM
x*She was a target from day one when it was revealed who her sister was. When she became automatic MVP her fate was sealed.It did not matter if she was
Noles8809/19/13 07:14 AM
x*Everyone loves an underdog & she had a very similar view on the others asAmerica did. She's great & she doesn't need any other reason! NT
jkegf309/18/13 06:48 PM
x*I agree 100%, well said. NT
DaniTheWinner09/19/13 07:59 AM
x*She never had a view, b/c she was never given any screen time other than "HI I'M MVP!", then nothing, because she was insignificant and worthless
lanx09/19/13 02:22 AM
x*Now she's known for being Big Brother 15's fan favorite. NT
jovoh09/19/13 02:57 AM
x*yeah..kinda sad. NT
Quirkydude09/19/13 03:59 AM
x*I like that she tried to play the game without HATE NT
Dulcie09/18/13 05:31 PM
x*Elissa had to fight every week to be there because of who she is related to not because she is just Elissa. They never tried to get to know her.
poorbabi09/18/13 04:26 PM
x*Listen to Elissa? examine Elissa's gameplay, which amounts to Being born Rachaels Sister and doing Morning Yoga... That's it! she has no gameplay
lanx09/19/13 02:25 AM
x*She's a technological marvel. She's a huge leap forward in artificial intelligence and android technology. NT
Ephandis09/18/13 03:20 PM
x*She went against the grain. Didn't nominate Howard. Nominated Andy and withstood bullying to do so. Won three comps to extend her game. She
jovoh09/18/13 03:13 PM
x*I agree with you totally. NT
DaniTheWinner09/19/13 08:02 AM
x*I agree with you JSpears5, we are simply in a very small minority. Be prepared to watch this one win America's Favorite. Ugh! NT
LuckyLizzie7409/18/13 02:58 PM
x*I didn't even bother to vote, and I'm sure a lot of ABE fans didn't either. She's had this check in the bag since late June. Pointless to vote. NT
Ephandis09/18/13 03:24 PM
x*I don't agree with half your points. In any case, it's what she looks like compared to other houseguests that matters, not looking at her alone.
Nusa09/18/13 02:15 PM
x*Maturity, flexibility, Nice laugh, looked great doing yoga, some exciting wins, sincerity, adaptability, never gave up, human insight, a class act! NT
BBenthusiast09/18/13 01:47 PM
x*Nice Laugh? superficially her evil joker laugh is what the "younger" cast hated about her and wanted her gone, and sincere? plz she's as fake
lanx09/19/13 02:20 AM
x*I never liked Rachel. Never. But I did like Elissa. Here's why
Maggiepie109/18/13 01:18 PM
x*I agree, I think she was targeted by the mean girls and the public was anti mean girl, then she was targeted by MCranda and the public pulled for her
JSpears509/19/13 06:04 AM
x*This is the 1st answer that I can at least understand. What I don't get is is why Helen is hated but Elissa is revered. Both beyond annoying. lol! NT
LuckyLizzie7409/18/13 03:06 PM
x*Everyone figured Helen out as fake because she would jump up and down and clap for who ever won for the week.
poorbabi10/14/13 04:45 AM
x*And you have to give her credit for being there 10 weeks when at the beginning I thought she would be lucky to last one. NT
BBAnnie09/18/13 02:59 PM
x*More like you have to thank Helen for deciding to keep Elissa and Campaign for her, because she barely had a brain cell to spare. NT
lanx09/19/13 02:17 AM
*This sign needs to be hanging in the Big Brother house
Bilbo832 3   09/18/13 09:59 AM
x*Of value to whom? NT
Ephandis09/18/13 03:24 PM
x*This is exactly what this game is
JSpears509/18/13 11:35 AM
x*Right on! NT
Emijo09/18/13 10:17 AM
*Most likely some of you would agree with my thoughts, some will just pass it over, some will come back with a snide remark, such as "lighten up. Some
AngelsofCa2200 25   09/17/13 09:41 PM
x*Big Brother is supposed to be a microcosm of "1984". BBUS has turned into an extreme of the worst of our society. Extreme bad girls, extreme bigots,
Mulkum12/08/13 03:48 AM
x*They also need to cut out the tired canned speeches. the obligatory stares at the memory wall and rehearsed DRs and let them do it naturally. NT
Caramel12/08/13 06:54 AM
x*hi...thank you for this tp..dwts just ended..it was a great last show..bringing all the dancers back..valerie rocked it..she lives on!! good season NT
janie812/01/13 05:22 PM
x*Meh, I'd rather watch ordinary people rip each other to shreds. NT
Ephandis09/18/13 03:27 PM
x*Hours before the finale: Why do we watch? What's going to happen tonight...and afterwards? Is this BB game Good? Bad? Pointless? Embarrassing?
BBenthusiast09/18/13 03:11 PM
x*"You guys take it way to literal, it's a game!" That pretty much says it all. NT
Nusa09/18/13 02:20 PM
x*The world has become one big Jerry Springer show. NT
DonnaG09/18/13 10:47 AM
x*Sure has. And ironic since one of their tasks in season one was to do...a Jerry Springer show. NT
BBAnnie09/18/13 11:09 AM
x*Wonderful post, Angels. ITA on many levels. It's why I dropped all of the Housewives shows as well as many other reality type programs. I
BBAnnie09/18/13 07:32 AM
x*The HGs weren’t the only problem
Mikentosh09/18/13 12:12 AM
x*And here we have Mikentosh with the voice of reason. ITA with your entire post. Can I be honest? I really hate social media for the reasons you
BBAnnie09/18/13 07:36 AM
x*I am so thankful I was born at a time when people knew how to be caring, kind, respectful of others & to know the difference between...
starrynite09/18/13 12:46 PM
x*Amen, starry. You stated my thoughts perfectly. NT
BBAnnie09/18/13 02:57 PM
x*i think BB made a mistake not having "old" people in the house this year. IMO the old timers would have kept these yoggins in line NT
Belle09/18/13 12:47 PM
x*It is mind boggling the behavior & attitudes some people will accept & think that it's funny. NT
starrynite09/18/13 01:02 PM
x*did you mean this post to go here **confused** NT
Belle09/18/13 01:04 PM
x*Well, kinda. I wasn't referring to your post though. LOL Just following up on previous posts & comments as us "old folk" would not accept it.
starrynite09/18/13 01:22 PM
x*thanks starrynite :) NT
Belle09/18/13 01:23 PM
x*Yes :::::fleeeeeeee::::: NT
mhg7609/18/13 01:11 PM
x*lol mgh long time no seeeeeeee NT
Belle09/18/13 01:12 PM
x*Such a great response! So thoughtful! Thank you for sharing! NT
AngelsofCa09/18/13 03:21 AM
x*I'm glad you shared with us. I cried when watching Valerie last night, too. It is good to see her dance. Peace. NT
LeftTurn09/17/13 11:27 PM
x*TY Left! OMG she was so inspiring! I loved it too!! Such a nice change. NT
AngelsofCa09/18/13 03:24 AM
x*I read & it feels good to vent. NT
spikewells09/17/13 10:45 PM
x*I read yours as well. Love your insight, meant to post mine as a reply. Thank YOU for the thought provoking share! NT
AngelsofCa09/18/13 03:26 AM
* CBS will be rewarding 2 people for their deplorable conduct on Wed. night & passing it off as game play. **indulge my rant below
spikewells4331 46   09/17/13 04:24 PM
x*I personally have been a BB fan/feedster since s1 day 1. LOVED the entire idea and game theory. How BB took on a life of it's own and grew every
Emijo09/18/13 08:48 AM
x*A pat on the back to you, spike. I really enjoyed your post and couldn't agree more. I think many of us feel really let down by how vile some of
BBAnnie09/18/13 07:43 AM
x*Thanks Annie, I really believe there is a market for the show, warts & all, if it were moved to a cable channel that caters to this type of mentality
spikewells09/18/13 08:03 AM
x*Exactly...they could put it on Bravo or TLC or MTV or VH1. They all have these types of shows and I watch none of them. NT
BBAnnie09/18/13 11:09 AM
x*Great point, I totally agree NT
CJinIowa09/18/13 08:11 AM
x*Loved it, Loved it. NT
presleys_child09/17/13 07:21 PM
x*Liked your post. What they don't pass off as game play will be justified as they were just joking. I don't think they were joking, I think it's a
summer1309/17/13 06:54 PM
x*Thank you Spikewell. Very much. NT
Geordielass09/17/13 05:29 PM
x*Spikewell thank you!! Your post reflects almost everything I feel about this entire season. My love of BB has been diminished this year. I do not
Brn2Wander09/17/13 05:17 PM
x*I wouldn't watch a show that pisses me off.. NT
missy09/17/13 04:42 PM
x*I believe my point is lost on you Missy....sorry you didn't read the whole article. NT
spikewells09/17/13 05:09 PM
x*I wish there were a like button for this post! NT
LilKsweezy09/17/13 04:33 PM
x*I've stopped by this website twice today. Both times this post's at the top. I get it. You don't watch BB anymore. Thanks for the multiple updates. NT
Pimpmikedizzle09/17/13 04:32 PM
x*To me it's not entertainment to see people attacked by bullies mocking them w/racial stereotypes. It's heartbreaking. Seeing the after-effect on
ga12309/17/13 04:30 PM
x*I wanted to cry in the flash back of Howard comforting Candice. The hurt & anger showed in his face & he was holding it all in to be the bigger person
spikewells09/17/13 05:16 PM
x*Andy was particularly sadistic for no reason. NT
LillyNomad09/17/13 04:32 PM
x*Andy reminds me of the kid who cheers on the bullies and laughs at their jokes because he knows he'd be the target if he didn't. NT
ga12309/17/13 04:36 PM
x*Bingo NT
Swaat09/17/13 04:42 PM
x*I agree, the most frustrating aspect of BB15 was the gaping disparity between the show and the feeds. It was just too much. NT
Singaling09/17/13 04:29 PM
x*Your point is invalidated by suggesting Jeff as a person to question them. NT
theotherguy09/17/13 04:28 PM
x*Jeff is a moron and he's homophobic, but he is not comparable to these deplorable final 3. He did not spew hate 24/7. NT
fifi09/17/13 04:43 PM
x*Agreed, but he shouldn't be serving as a judge on the subject either NT
theotherguy09/17/13 04:48 PM
x*Right? Jeff never got questioned for his blatant homophobia. NT
Pimpmikedizzle09/17/13 04:30 PM
x*Jeff was just ignorant and later recanted and reformed his opinion. Ratboy knows better, especially being Gay and probably a victim in his past. What
LillyNomad09/17/13 04:37 PM
x*Jeff did this with the benefit of hindsight and still said stuff his second season. Most likely these people will also recant. NT
theotherguy09/17/13 04:42 PM
x*Same with Janelle and all her racist remarks too? I love how fan favs can say whatever they please. NT
Pimpmikedizzle09/17/13 04:39 PM
x*According to many she never said anything racist, even though she most certainly did. NT
theotherguy09/17/13 04:44 PM
x*Good grief, Janelle was not even close to being vile like this bunch. Janelle talked to people's faces not their backs. Not a racist!!! smh NT
kat00409/17/13 04:43 PM
x*She said ivette should be her maid to her face? Or when she talked about taking a Puerto Rican shower? NT
theotherguy09/17/13 04:46 PM
x*She also tossed Mexican slurs about Jennifer. But no one cared cuz we hated her. NT
Jadey09/17/13 05:10 PM
x*lol..carry on, hate on..I"m done. If all else fails lets bring up Janelle and Jeff. :) NT
kat00409/17/13 05:14 PM
x*wow how terrible, they said a lot worse about her. Not even close to being vile and nasty like this bunch. NT
kat00409/17/13 04:51 PM
x*You're telling me those statements aren't racist? What racist statements did Maggie make about her? NT
theotherguy09/17/13 04:54 PM
x*I'm telling you I find your post about Janelle ridiculous. Its fine to hate her but lets keep it real NT
kat00409/17/13 04:55 PM
x*How many racist comments are okay before it's too many? Amanda got skewered on these boards for the same shower comment. NT
theotherguy09/17/13 04:58 PM
x*Your insightful post should pinned. That's exactly what most viewers believe. NT
LillyNomad09/17/13 04:26 PM
x*Thanks Lilly, I needed to vent :) NT
spikewells09/17/13 05:07 PM
x*CBS/BB had no rules in place prohibiting the type of talk that these houseguests did and there wasn't much they could do. That said, they
CJinIowa09/17/13 04:26 PM
x*And why wouldn't they have seen a need for more rules after Season 8? NT
DaisyChain09/17/13 04:41 PM
x*Season 8 was when they should have started making & enforcing rules. They set a precedent by letting the chosen winner get away with it. Too late
Jadey09/17/13 05:12 PM
x*Then I have to assume BB wanted this type of season and cast for it. NT
DaisyChain09/17/13 05:21 PM
x*I can't believe I'm saying this, but I agree with you. NT
theotherguy09/17/13 04:32 PM
x*Well that's a first, lmao. NT
CJinIowa09/17/13 04:33 PM
x*Even in disagreements I try (try) to be at least respectful of other opinions. NT
theotherguy09/17/13 04:37 PM
x*And America will be rewarding one.... NT
rstevens09/17/13 04:25 PM
x*I really hope GM wins! That will be sweet!! NT
SpencersBeard09/17/13 04:25 PM
*I wish they could vote none of the above and then donate the money to charity bc I don't want any of these 3 to win just my opinion
wolf32763212 2   09/17/13 04:48 AM
x*Well, if bad people weren't given money, the robber barons who run most of the world's corporations would be destitute. NT
Ephandis09/17/13 03:02 PM
x*That would be a different twist. If everyone collectively agreed to "none of the above" and donated it. But unfortunately they played the game
nycszq09/17/13 12:24 PM
*NSFW Last night's BB After Dark discussion on Elissa. Warning! Contains vile content.
MaryAnn19604 56   09/16/13 03:59 PM
x*The TV was on, but I wasn't paying much attention, then Spencer GRABBED my attention, so I listened for a while just to make sure I heard what I
ShrewLou09/21/13 07:58 PM
x*Some American viewers said it went dark during the worst of this but on slice.ca, they played all of it (link inside)
MaryAnn09/21/13 09:12 PM
x*I don't care if some of you think it's a joke, it was said to humiliate and degrade a human being NT
seahorse09/21/13 07:54 AM
x*Wow WOW Wow...I am literally speechless! NT
jaguar309/19/13 05:24 PM
x*Elissa is going to feel AWFUL for voting for Andy. He's far worse than GM, IMO NT
SeasickNemo09/19/13 04:00 AM
x*I'm not surprised coming from such a vile person. NT
LillyNomad09/17/13 03:14 PM
x*Don't read the transcript. Check it out on FB because it's obvious that they were joking. They were intentionally saying stuff so absurd, so...
GetEmDrunk09/17/13 02:47 PM
x*Who here has said they weren't joking? Of course they were joking... Vile, disgusting, nasty jokes. Does that make it right or funny? NT
MaryAnn09/17/13 06:16 PM
x*Don't get in a snit. I wasn't debating...I just said they were joking. NT
GetEmDrunk09/17/13 06:57 PM
x*It's not a snit, it's saying obviously they were joking but it doesn't make it any less gross. NT
CJinIowa09/19/13 03:53 AM
x*If you recognize that they are jokes, then you use the "was it funny" standard of evaluating it, rather than the "vicious lies" standard. NT
Nusa09/17/13 06:19 PM
x*So if someone jokes that YOU blew them on day 1... You're good with that? If someone told those vile "jokes" about me...there'd be consequences. NT
MaryAnn09/17/13 06:27 PM
x*What consequences? Remember, you weren't there during the conversation, so stopping them wasn't an option. NT
Nusa09/17/13 06:38 PM
x*So...yeah? You're good with it? NT
MaryAnn09/19/13 08:50 AM
x*still should not have been said. nasty and vile. NT
LillyNomad09/17/13 03:16 PM
x*Um...I don't see this on our Joker's Updates. Is this real? It doesn't sound real. NT
LuckyLizzie7409/17/13 11:03 AM
x*And they kept it up last night during the brief time I watched BBAD. It was mostly Andy and Spencer last night saying some of these things about
BBAnnie09/18/13 07:50 AM
x*Of course it's real... I even gave the time and where to see it yourself. This is a word for word transcription of what was said. Updates ...
MaryAnn09/17/13 06:12 PM
x*People need to stop being professionally offended at everything. Obviously they're joking around. They're very bored. NT
Firate09/17/13 08:14 AM
x*Yes, this is the type of convo all normal adults have when bored. NT
CJinIowa09/19/13 03:54 AM
x*CJ, knowing you as I do from this board, I love that I can just hear in my mind the deep sarcasm tied to your statement. Love it. NT
BBAnnie09/19/13 06:53 AM
x*People need to stop complaining about complaints. NT
SG809/17/13 06:59 PM
x*A) something about the posted dialog isn't jiving right, doesn't sound real. B) I agree, we are at Professional Level Panty Twist at this point.
LuckyLizzie7409/17/13 11:55 AM
x*I guess I'm the only one who watches cable television and R rated movies. There is nothing particularly shocking here for me. NT
Ephandis09/17/13 09:01 AM
x*So...the line then? Where is it? Was this funny? Is this what bored people do? Frankly, ALL is this year's nonsense would have...
MaryAnn09/17/13 08:50 AM
x*Whether its funny or not is not the point. There are unfunny jokes. Maybe this kind of humor is not your cup of tea...but they were not...
GetEmDrunk09/17/13 03:03 PM
x*No, it's what bored psychopaths do. It's not BB's job to censor. Let the idiots sink their own ships and suffer the consequences. NT
IrishA09/17/13 09:40 AM
x*Telling them to stop only reinforces that it's a scandalous topic, which will fuel their desire to keep doing it. They're trying to be provacative
Firate09/17/13 09:25 AM
x*I mean, I don't think it's particularly funny, but at the same time I don't see it as something to get upset over. Why is it a big deal? NT
Firate09/17/13 09:22 AM
x*i've heard improv comedy that was about as bad as this. and was close to getting up and leaving. i think some people think this is funny
Belle09/17/13 08:53 AM
x*I guess I don't understand that kind of humor. I don't joke that way, I don't hang around anyone that does and I've never known anyone who thinks this
CJinIowa09/17/13 08:57 AM
x*ITA CJ.They just kept going all season..This is who they are in real life bc NORMAL humans-they behave or talk this way..Its UNACCEPTABLE... NT
jaguar309/19/13 05:38 PM
x*Thank God I stopped watching my feeds when Elissa was evicted. It hurts my soul that 2 of these 3 degenerates will win a great deal of money. :-( NT
ScienceGirl09/17/13 12:04 AM
x*this is a study in what bullies do to their victims. Make up atrocious stories meant to hurt their victims personally on so many levels. NT
rainingflowers09/16/13 11:29 PM
x*The sad part is that they don't realize that they're hurting themselves. Most BB winners have plenty of adoring fans, but talk like theirs only makes
Caramel09/16/13 11:42 PM
x*But they're embarrassing their own friends and loved ones and forcing them into a position of defending their actions. NT
jovoh09/16/13 11:31 PM
x*it sucks for everyone, doesn't it? It's an opptny to help someone change, if they want to, brought about in a most horrible way sure to strain
rainingflowers09/17/13 01:46 AM
x*I disagree about forcing their friends and loved ones to defend their actions. I can only see that happening if those friends, etc. are just as vile
Caramel09/16/13 11:45 PM
x*Rather, I should say, defend them and rationalize their actions, as in the case of Amanda's dad, Judd's family, Andy's students, Spencer's girl. NT
jovoh09/17/13 02:09 AM
Jannyran109/16/13 08:08 PM
x*What kind of people make up stuff like that? NT
Caramel09/16/13 08:58 PM
x*So grateful I removed BBAD from my DVR. Such pigs. NT
BBAnnie09/16/13 08:31 PM
x*Could they be sued for defamation of character? NT
Ivory_mist09/16/13 06:39 PM
x*Re: Could they be sued for defamation of character?
Boywonder391909/17/13 06:52 AM
x*Well, the rumor is out there that the winner may be sued by the families of some of the other house guests. I don't find it to be parody. I find
BBAnnie09/18/13 07:57 AM
x*One man's parody is another's slander. NT
Mikentosh09/17/13 09:55 AM
x*OMG this is absolutely revolting, disgusting and disgraceful...I couldn't finish reading it...shame on them.... NT
Brn2Wander09/16/13 05:58 PM
x*what really gets me is they KNOW when they are on AD..so do they think this is what people want to hear? its mind boggling. NT
CheeseFries09/16/13 06:09 PM
x*People have wondered about Andy's Elissa obsession. At first, I thought it was him trying to be Ragan, but there seems to be some sexual fixation. NT
jovoh09/16/13 05:49 PM
x*JMO, but andy thinks that everyone hates elissa..so he is trying to be in the "In crowd"..ie he's making himself loved by bashing her. NT
CheeseFries09/16/13 06:11 PM
x*I honestly can't believe how offensive they got. When your go-to humor involves ten year olds and oral sex, there are some deep issues there. NT
chicagoloopy09/16/13 04:11 PM
x*I can't believe there has been this disgusting level of hate and filth directed toward another HG ever. These miscreants take the prize. NT
agent9909/17/13 06:45 AM
x*Not like it's the first time either. There's no way that anyone can tell me that this was an acceptable joke or that offense taken by it is irrational
CJinIowa09/16/13 04:13 PM
x*Grown men sitting around and making up stupid immature sexual stories. Not funny. Just stupid and offensive. NT
junkydiva09/16/13 06:12 PM
x*For those disbelievers, they said similar stuff last night, too. During the Bu!!sh!t game, when Andy was drunk, he was talking about Elissa - again &
jezziebezzie09/18/13 03:23 PM
x*Kind of makes you miss the days of the houseguests discussing their own farts and their bowel movements, doesn't it? LOL NT
BBAnnie09/18/13 05:43 PM
*Thinking about a future all-stars, and all the "returning hg's" that we've seen in the last few seasons, wouldn't it be cool if CBS had decided
JeannieGold512 1   09/16/13 01:07 PM
x*I don't think Jordan will ever do this show again. And Brit has bigger fish to fry with a 2 month old with cancer. NT
BBAnnie09/16/13 08:33 PM
*Danielle Reyes made an interesting distinction in the Dan vs. Ian debate tonight. Agree with it or disagree? (explained inside)
jovoh3239 30   09/13/13 10:47 PM
x*I think that if Dan's game was that good he would have won. Dan's strategies worked in the short run, but not the long run. It was a great game, but
LuckyLizzie7409/17/13 11:25 AM
x*Agree for the most part. Only disagree with what is being perceived as "overall."
CubbyPuppy09/16/13 02:29 PM
x*Fair points, but we've seen that you can Jordan your way to the win. Generally, gameplay is more respected if you're dictating who's being evicted. NT
jovoh09/17/13 03:05 AM
x*Weird argument, IMO. Dan clearly relished the blood on his hands, especially when he blind-sided Shane. Just sayin'. NT
dustysnemisis09/16/13 02:34 PM
x*At that point, there was nobody for him to hide behind. He couldn't shift the blame for that one to anyone. Other than that, you missed the point...
CubbyPuppy09/18/13 10:52 AM
x*Not to this viewer, Dan played a frantic, sloppy game in my opinion & Ian made some great moves including evicting Boogie, his coach. NT
starrynite09/16/13 01:05 PM
x*I agree to some extent, but Dan was on his heels from the get-go and things only got harder when Frank didn't go home with reset. NT
jovoh09/17/13 03:00 AM
x*this is how and WHY bb14 voted straight from ashley(bb14)
lanx09/16/13 12:30 AM
x*I hadn't heard that. Thanks for posting this! I especially find it interesting seeing as how she was robbed her season because of no Sequester. NT
1234567809/15/13 12:24 AM
x*She was very diplomatic and said there is no certainty that she would have won. Said that she made people mad within the house as well. NT
jovoh09/15/13 01:44 AM
x*Danielle is correct, but Dan's style of gameplay was like Russell Hantz's--entertaining, but not winning. NT
Ephandis09/14/13 04:20 PM
x*Let me see here…
Mikentosh09/14/13 08:58 AM
x*Spot on! NT
bb4peeker09/27/13 04:51 AM
x*I love when someone agrees with me! I was afraid Ian would fumble jury ?s, but it was Dan who failed miserably in that arena also. NT
bb4peeker09/15/13 03:03 AM
x*How was Ian Dan's equal?
SG809/14/13 04:32 PM
x*So Ian got Dan to save him. Dan went out of his way to rescue his biggest threat. That means that Dan screwed up. Dan didn't deal the death blow.
CubbyPuppy09/18/13 11:07 AM
x*You see what you want to see, not what is/was there. Dan was a coach and had that advantage
Mikentosh09/14/13 09:58 PM
SG809/15/13 05:46 AM
x*Danielle says that she had a difficult time in all-stars because there was no one she could trust and alliances had formed coming in. NT
jovoh09/14/13 01:29 PM
x*Yes, including James & Dani forming an alliance before coming in. NT
starrynite09/15/13 11:45 AM
x*She said she felt alone after James was evicted but that Marcellas was her guy, even though she couldn't trust him fully. NT
jovoh09/16/13 04:55 AM
x*Not earth shattering, we knew they did it based on what was done to them, how they felt and what they saw, but Dan played they best game. NT
NJcathie09/14/13 07:10 AM
x*Sorry, but if you make the Jury hate you, you made some mistakes. Danielle freely admits that Lisa Donahue played a better Jury game than her. NT
Ephandis09/14/13 04:21 PM
x*You do realize the jury saw her DR sessions? Dan is the best US BBPlayer. NT
Kay1909/16/13 07:34 AM
x*If that were true, he would have beat Ian. NT
Ephandis09/16/13 12:30 PM
x*So many players & fans forget the social game is as important as gameplay strategy. NT
bb4peeker09/15/13 03:09 AM
x*The jury wasn't sequestered the year Danielle was in the finals either. They saw exactly what went down before they voted. NT
cjj309/14/13 08:36 PM
x*They WERE sequestered, but they were shown Danielle's DFs. Only viewers saw those. Danielle was counting the heads in DR. That's why Lisa won. NT
Mikentosh09/14/13 10:01 PM
x*No sequester in season 3. NT
MissJamesWhine09/14/13 11:46 PM
x*no, season 3 were not sequestered NT
zagger09/14/13 10:18 PM
*The Final Snap—Revisiting my early judgments of the BB15 Cast
Ephandis2106 15   09/13/13 12:39 PM
x*It's great to know that we can still depend on soem things we/re used to. Thanks for always being yourself. NT
Mikentosh09/14/13 09:53 PM
x*I could never be anyone but me! :D NT
Ephandis09/15/13 12:24 PM
x*My first impressions, from pre-show interviews
FurnitureAlliance09/14/13 05:17 PM
x*Grrreat Post! Using your order: Disagree, Agree, 50/50, Agree, 50/50, Agree, 50/50, Agree,Agree,Agree,50/50, LOL, Agree, LOL, Agree, LOL-- a lot!! NT
BBenthusiast09/14/13 05:09 PM
x*Great read, and I agree with all but Candice. NT
Shar09/14/13 01:37 PM
x*Very entertaining. Pretty much my thoughts as well. NT
starr4all09/14/13 12:50 PM
x*Good read Ephandis, very entertaining! Don't agree with you but what's new. I have missed your posts this season NT
SizzleGA09/14/13 12:47 PM
x*I've been around, being the Devil's Advocate wherever I go (he actually has several on staff, but we take turns). NT
Ephandis09/14/13 04:14 PM
x*Great post! I don't agree with all of it, but entertaining read. NT
BleacherBum09/14/13 10:37 AM
x*You're kidding right? Is this opposite day? NT
jcblueeyes227609/14/13 10:02 AM
x*Lol great post NT
Belle09/14/13 09:51 AM
x*Ditto! (entertaining, right on!) NT
hepsibah09/14/13 06:13 AM
x*You hate the people I like and like the people I hate. LOL NT
ScienceGirl09/13/13 10:36 PM
x*Harsh final on Jessie. Obviously not listening to the observations of the straight and male minority. NT
HalfManHalfAmazing09/13/13 09:37 PM
x*So entertaining, and pretty much right on! NT
bb4peeker09/13/13 07:22 PM
*Reason why most of the feed watcher really dislike Andy:
RJ_Wise4477 23   09/13/13 09:57 AM
x*You saw exactly what I saw...a jury should see similar profile NT
rodh09/17/13 08:36 PM
x*You nailed it to a "t". NT
Brn2Wander09/16/13 06:11 PM
x*Awesome post! ITA I would also like to add that he is very arrogant and seems to believe his own "revised version" of the game he played. He
ScienceGirl09/14/13 06:42 AM
x*ITA with both posts. Andy is an angry little person who tries to build himslef up by putting others down regardless of whether they are still in
ggs8309/14/13 09:00 AM
x*Omg I agree - so annoying how they r claiming credit for things didn't even do with their 2/3 week Alliance!! NT
lapetite09/14/13 07:11 AM
x*I just think he's kind of one-dimensional NT
FurnitureAlliance09/13/13 01:10 PM
x*Well said. But my biggest issue was trashing El's children. He's a TEACHER which makes it even more despicable. Wonder how he'll spin that one? NT
Jenerrific71309/13/13 01:00 PM
x*He's not a teacher. He has a part-time job teaching one class at a city college. NT
BleacherBum09/14/13 10:39 AM
x*More like HAD a job as a part time instructor. NT
BBAnnie09/16/13 12:38 PM
x*Did he say anything other than the stepson is probably an idiot, and that her 8 year old should be doing something other than painting? NT
Shar09/13/13 01:03 PM
x*do you even find that acceptable? NT
Brn2Wander09/16/13 06:12 PM
x*Very well said! NT
Marley09/13/13 10:32 AM
x*agree 100% NT
renka1309/13/13 10:17 AM
x*Very true and bashing hgs that are no longer is the game is totally not game play and only shows what kind of person he really is! NT
RockChalkJhawk09/13/13 10:12 AM
x*Yup, pretty accurate. I'd also throw in the contrast between his arrogant DR entries and slimy lie-based gameplay.
norman09/13/13 10:11 AM
x*His goodbyes seem intent on assuring he doesn’t get a single Jury vote. NT
Mikentosh09/14/13 09:08 AM
x*Outside of the goodbyes we did not see (Judd's 1st eviction and Elissa's eviction), all the other messages were just rude and mean. NT
BBAnnie09/16/13 12:39 PM
x*^^This!^^ I find the goodbyes the worst. When he tries to confess, it comes off as phony and insincere. They insult intelligence. NT
jcblueeyes227609/14/13 10:10 AM
x*Thank you!!! NT
Hidef108009/13/13 10:11 AM
x*Great post...agree NT
Lumpy09/13/13 10:10 AM
x*Good post. I agree. NT
SG809/13/13 10:09 AM
x*Perfectly said!
spikewells09/13/13 10:09 AM
x*You put my thoughts and opinions in a clearly defined manner. Thank you for expressing his actions so well. NT
fundy09/13/13 10:07 AM
*Jury vote breakdown: Andy vs GM, Andy vs Spencer and GM vs Spencer.
Favortie812 4   09/12/13 07:34 PM
x*No chance for a unanimous jury NT
rodh09/17/13 08:38 PM
x*If Andy in in F2 I think he will win against either. NT
bb4peeker09/13/13 01:56 AM
x*Sadly, I see no scenario that doesn't include spencer in F2. Then again, any combination of these three is disappointing. NT
hate2wait09/12/13 07:37 PM
x*very disappointing NT
ILuvMySteelers09/14/13 12:47 AM
*Lol I never post in this section but can we really go "In Depth" about these dingdongs!
SunlessBeauty759 8   09/12/13 05:01 PM
x*I have been lurking since S5 and always loved this forum. BBD moves too fast to have a good discussion. I should have posted here this summer. NT
ScienceGirl09/13/13 10:42 PM
x*This has been the worst season of InDepth! We lost 90% of our regular posters. NT
SizzleGA09/12/13 09:08 PM
x*we have to many trolls now..sad to say NT
alexxia09/14/13 04:58 PM
x*Bingo...I have noticed this as well. People who come on board to stir the pot talking garbage about houseguests while remaining within TOS. NT
BBAnnie09/16/13 12:35 PM
x*barely within TOS, imo. And several beyond
frustratedposter09/20/13 03:48 AM
x*^^^ I agree! NO disrespect to the newbies, but I REALLY miss a lot of our veteran posters. So many are missing this season NT
ILuvMySteelers09/14/13 12:49 AM
x*IKR...always enjoyed In Depth more than BBD forum. We are much more civil here even when we disagree with one another. NT
BBAnnie09/13/13 10:28 AM
x*Who are you calling regular? ;) NT
Mikentosh09/12/13 09:32 PM
*The Revisionist Game Moves is getting ridiculous at this point and is an insult to true BB players and fans of BB
Neonis872 7   09/12/13 03:51 PM
x*This is what has been bothering me most about them - instead of...
lapetite09/14/13 07:18 AM
x*Well, I guess Andy fooled the jury - they were discussing & admiring his gameplay. NT
bb4peeker09/13/13 07:25 PM
x*Andy's moves were dictated by other peoples moves. NT
Pyke09/13/13 05:57 AM
x*I agree! Until recently, Andy followed Mc/Am orders, & did exactly what they told him to do. It was NOT all Andy... NT
ILuvMySteelers09/14/13 12:52 AM
x*This is true. Amanda had him scared sh*tless. He was stuck so far up her and McCrae's joined-at-the-hip butt that it would take radar to find him. NT
Caramel09/14/13 07:20 AM
x*He SEEMED to be "scared sh*tless"...or did he also fool us? How do Elissa's fans explain how he fooled her? NT
bb4peeker09/15/13 03:36 PM
x*Yes, the plan to get GM nominated to save Aaryn was just another in a long line of Amanda's schemes that failed miserably. NT
BIGBRO1109/12/13 08:17 PM
*I could be cared less who wins this nightmare of a season, but....
cjj34040 40   09/11/13 10:19 PM
x*Elissa got some of my AFP votes for her grace under attack from Amanda. If it were me, I'd wish I had the strength to take it quietly like she did. NT
anastasia61209/13/13 09:54 AM
x*Because she can't think on her feet. Look at how pathetic her bid for votes was during the DE-"Please don't vote me out" was the best she could do NT
FurnitureAlliance09/15/13 02:52 AM
x*She might have been powered down at that point. I didn't see the indicator light in the shot though. NT
Ephandis09/13/13 12:43 PM
x*The Enzo'ing of Andy in OTEV and the spit take to Amanda should be reason enough. Gamewise, she saved herself 3x with comp wins and dismantled 3AM,
jovoh09/13/13 04:43 AM
x*The Exterminators reveal to McCrae is sort of amazing right now!...Sept. 12, beginning just before 1:00 and it goes on and on...
BBenthusiast09/12/13 03:11 PM
x*So, did MVP give her special advantages or make her a target? You're saying both. I get your hate, but pick an excuse that works. NT
B2S09/12/13 12:15 PM
x*I agree Elissa sucked, but AFP is sort of like Miss Congeniality or a Bronze Medal at the Special Olympics. It is a loser award, and I can think of..
scottzet09/12/13 01:49 PM
x*Other then the monetary prize(which is of little significance to Elissa) I would rather be loved by millions that to win a game against 15 people NT
ScienceGirl09/14/13 12:01 AM
x*& to be HATED by America..... No thank u, I would glady take the 25k, & leave with dignity, respect, & be loved my (most) America. NT
ILuvMySteelers09/14/13 12:56 AM
x*Thanks for finishing my thought! LOL Let's not forget the final 3 have all suffered additional ramifications with their employers and/or the law! NT
ScienceGirl09/14/13 06:45 AM
x*How soon we forget Kathy and her bus. NT
BBAnnie09/12/13 08:26 PM
x*Because it's about who is America's favorite not who America thinks is the best at the game who isn't in F2. NT
BBAnnie09/12/13 06:31 AM
x*Why should she win? Because it was piss Andy off. NT
Maggiepie109/12/13 04:57 AM
x*an excellent reason. NT
Thunderclap09/12/13 03:50 PM
x*ITA and I think it would even piss Andy off if Andy wins the game. It would upset the entire F5. NT
BBAnnie09/12/13 06:48 AM
x*Awww, I feel so sorry for them...NOT. NT
SizzleGA09/12/13 01:10 PM
x*Because a lot of people "worship" her and are bllnd to any of her faults,,, NT
bb4peeker09/12/13 02:39 AM
x*This! A lot of people in the house during different seasons have been bullied. Doesn't mean they deserve the money. NT
starr4all09/14/13 12:56 PM
x*Elissa for America's Favorite Houseguest...(This is LONG, folks!)...
BBenthusiast09/12/13 12:15 AM
x*Thanks for your well thought out post. ITA and now I am out of here for the night. NT
Brn2Wander09/16/13 07:35 PM
x*Thank you so much for this well-thought out and expressed post. That's EXACTLY what I saw and it's a relief to see someone else felt the same. NT
Geordielass09/14/13 09:47 PM
x*Your summary hits the nub of it. "She ignored a slew of houseguests." That's why she has people who don't appreciate her and why she's in jury. NT
BleacherBum09/14/13 01:02 PM
x*I agree with every single sentiment you posted and will add more. Perhaps this is under the heading of not getting credit for her game play, but
ScienceGirl09/13/13 11:55 PM
x*Great additional post, SG! We can also had-she even has a couple exciting comp. wins to her credit! Maybe she's Not Rachel, but she held her own! NT
BBenthusiast09/14/13 10:43 PM
x*My feelings...
SizzleGA09/12/13 01:19 PM
x*LOL! It's been one of those kind of seasons, Sizzle, and the endgame is ++++++! As you say -- here's to BB16!!! NT
BBenthusiast09/12/13 02:47 PM
x*Thank you for a moment of sanity.
Mikentosh09/12/13 11:14 AM
x*Mike, I am glad I am not the only one who sees this. NT
BBAnnie09/12/13 11:57 AM
x*I see it clear as day as well. NT
ScienceGirl09/14/13 12:03 AM
x*Thanks BBA & M'Tosh!!! Moments of Sanity in the BB15 House....rare and valuable! & Elissa had 'em all!! NT
BBenthusiast09/12/13 12:59 PM
x*As Janelle tweeted: - I'm rooting for McCrae. NT
bb4peeker09/12/13 02:42 AM
x*Janelle was rooting for Elissa until she was evicted. NT
ScienceGirl09/14/13 12:04 AM
x*Andy won HOH and Veto so if he is true to his word bye bye MCc as he is on the block!
hlkhoffman09/12/13 03:59 AM
x*Great post! Love it tyvm! NT
bbfankat09/12/13 01:22 AM
x*YW, bbfankat! NT
BBenthusiast09/12/13 01:01 PM
x*Selective memory and fact check! Both week 1 and 2 she was on the block with the intention of evicting her. And received a bloc of votes to go! NT
Nusa09/11/13 11:21 PM
x*Just to comment on your P.S. Elissa was nominated week 1-week 2 by the McCrae & Aaryn/Jeremy..so the hg's were NOT afraid to nominate her. NT
reddgirl09/11/13 11:07 PM
x*Just because Rachel played and won does not mean that Elissa went into the house with the same ability. I believe Elissa was a poor player of the game
napns09/11/13 10:54 PM
x*Are you kidding?
SizzleGA09/11/13 10:27 PM
x*My sister plays professional chess. I go to most of her matches. I have no idea how to play the game. Try again. NT
B2S09/12/13 12:17 PM
*Why Andy deserves to win, and why he shouldn't!
hepsibah1362 14   09/11/13 10:03 AM
x*To me they are all cowards and made no big moves without backing. All floated to the end. None of them are game players. NT
Neonis09/12/13 04:05 PM
x*Andy made enemies switching from side to side, so I don't believe he is destine to win but on the other hand look who is his up against!
hlkhoffman09/12/13 04:08 AM
x*Bad jury management, and no matter how good his strat, jurors won't give him credit because he's a lying floater no matter what he says. NT
Nusa09/11/13 11:29 PM
x*"and it worked. I'm in the final two." NT
frustratedposter09/12/13 04:11 AM
x*But the other candidate is also in the F2, so being in the F2 just means you get at least 50K, it doesn't mean you're favored to win. NT
Nusa09/12/13 07:33 AM
x*He absolutely should win. Ratting people out is low but he played all tyese fools beautifully and kept it entertaining. I expect lying and ratting NT
sfish486209/11/13 11:00 PM
x*But TRASHING familes, kids, saying u want to punch female HG in face IS NOT GAME. Just sayin' NT
ILuvMySteelers09/14/13 12:58 AM
x*You are making the assumption that these hgs would play the same strateg with a different hgs, some would but some wouldn't, they'd adjust their game
ogopogo09/11/13 09:57 PM
x*Perfect, EXCELLENT Post analyzing the F5!! Puts things in a nice clear perspective. NT
BBenthusiast09/11/13 01:26 PM
x*Hard question...
Maggiepie109/11/13 01:13 PM
x*To be THE winner, you work with what you've got - HG-wise. There are a couple dozen ways to win -- and we've seen 'em all in only 15 seasons! NT
BBenthusiast09/11/13 01:45 PM
x*Yep, that's part of why I think dan screwed up last year - he didn't take into consideration who he was with. NT
Digitalpotato09/11/13 07:24 PM
x*I agree! (Not the brightest players) The proof for, me, for how successful Andy's game has been, will be IF he gets to F2 AND gets the win. NT
hepsibah09/11/13 01:45 PM
x*Yep. If McCrae pulls a Fabio, it'd be in his best interests to send out Gina this week and then Andy. NT
Digitalpotato09/11/13 07:25 PM
*September 11, 2001 in the Big Brother 2 house:
IHateYouAll1011 1   09/11/13 06:30 AM
x*Such a tragic thing to happen NT
ogopogo09/11/13 10:04 PM
*So you think the social groupings on BB15 are a part of human nature or simply coincidence?
HatGate1288 4   09/10/13 01:28 PM
x*Excellent, insightful observations, Hatgate!!
BBenthusiast09/11/13 05:52 AM
x*It's sad when people are judged by their appearance and labeled. We see a lot of it in game and from the fans. NT
Vald09/10/13 05:53 PM
x*The opposite point can be made just as well....
scottzet09/10/13 03:54 PM
x*Weren't Jeremy and Katlin brunette's also? NT
NJcathie09/10/13 02:25 PM
*New season, new production, new rules...
JerseyJames1676 18   09/10/13 08:46 AM
x*I wish BB would make a rule that the HOH could not tell HGs how to vote or risk losing HOH. Also, HGs cannot discuss with other HGs who....
starrynite09/11/13 06:53 PM
x*^^^^^^^^^^I like this idea^^^^^^^^^^ NT
runningchristi09/13/13 02:08 AM
x*They tried the "no discussing how you will vote" on season 1, and it was a snoozefest. NT
BIGBRO1109/12/13 08:22 PM
x*Not in my book ! I enjoyed it more than any season because it was a true social experiment as the game was suppose to be in the first place. Plus..
starrynite09/13/13 01:36 PM
x*Ah, starrynite, so glad to see someone who feels about season one like I did. I am a people watcher so season one was WAY more enjoyable to me. NT
BBAnnie09/16/13 12:34 PM
x*Sorry, I enjoyed season one more than any one since then. But JMHO... And they did discuss it at F4. NT
BBAnnie09/12/13 08:23 PM
x*Not to mention other house guests should be allowed to run the HOH by saying if you don't do what we want, you are next. Example, Aaryn. NT
BBAnnie09/12/13 06:48 AM
x*Interesting. I don't agree with a single one of these hoped for new rules. NT
anastasia61209/11/13 01:41 PM
x*when a rule is broken ie talk of DR, or production, sing or anything else, they get 1pt. The person or persons with the most points at the end of the
Tyzillian09/11/13 10:32 AM
x*JMHO, I don't think HOH should be able to compete. However, give them immunity the next week at the very least for the initial noms. NT
BBAnnie09/11/13 08:52 AM
x*Yes I agree with all you said. Especially about the HOH being able to compete. I think people have been afraid of one person dominating but NT
nycszq09/11/13 08:06 AM
x*All excellent and much needed reforms. NT
scottzet09/10/13 03:57 PM
x*Naw, I want the whole thing revamped!! This version of BB is terrible. NT
NJcathie09/10/13 02:23 PM
x*Absolutely agree on everything except maybe fans should vote on food for have nots/punishments. No MVP or special power though NT
BBFran8809/10/13 11:51 AM
x*Have nots should not be starved as they currently are. Give them a crappy bedroom and limit the amount of hot water in their shower. They would have
BBAnnie09/11/13 08:54 AM
x*Forget have the nots, give them high fat
sawslow09/11/13 12:36 PM
x*Once you're out, it's the end of the road.
TheWaffler09/10/13 09:31 AM
x*THIS! This is the only new rule I would get behind. NT
starr4all09/14/13 01:03 PM
*I think that the Jury should be able to vote "None of the Above". If that choice gets a plurality (the most)of the votes then the 5 or 7 HGs...
SolitaryDParty605 5   09/09/13 06:16 PM
x*They can do that if they choose, and you know it. They just have to bail on the game just before the voting, when it's way too late to ask America. NT
Nusa09/10/13 11:38 AM
x*There are still a few gamers in the house that make acceptable winners. We aren't at a GM/Spencer F2 yet NT
klipto12309/10/13 08:23 AM
x*AS much as I dislike the F5, whoever gets to F2 deserves to win the money . EVEN if I do not like them at all. This isn't the 1st season either NT
Emijo09/10/13 07:31 AM
x*Since those who are disliked the most are voted out first and have the least amount of time to show their game I would imagine it would take a very
hlkhoffman09/09/13 09:01 PM
x*I don't agree that it is the hgs who are disliked the most that get voted out. There all kinds of reasons why the hgs get voted out. NT
ogopogo09/11/13 10:09 PM
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