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*Is Donny now not ever cutting off his beard? NT
banner_boy27 3   12/17/14 10:46 AM
x*He always grows out his beard during the winter. He normally only shaves it off for the summer. NT
march_hair12/17/14 01:31 PM
x*who knows. Guess he cares more about being recognized than we thought... NT
BB_Fan_JJ_Dan12/17/14 12:40 PM
x*Or he just likes wearing a beard (or his gf likes it)... NT
Littlefinger12/17/14 02:03 PM
*Do you all think Zach will continue this upward trajectory to stardom or will he fade away? Sawagaroo NT
bbkook207 15   12/16/14 07:23 PM
x*Zach fan here too but sawagoo might be the dumbest thing ever, he's botching whatever he's trying to do NT
DrunkenStorm12/17/14 11:30 AM
x*I hope he does well, I don't understand the hate.He may fizzle when bb17 starts but why wish for that? NT
bb_tracy12/17/14 07:50 AM
x*the bb cycle of new replacing the old is not wishing it is how it works with big brother NT
uvp12/17/14 08:00 AM
x*he better milk whatever he can get now...once bb17 gets underway he will be an afterthought and a new zach will emerge NT
uvp12/17/14 07:00 AM
x*Upward? LOL, he'd been on the downward slope for weeks now. He'll be passe by BB17, if not BBCan3 NT
Heronimo12/16/14 10:29 PM
x*He has a cameo in the new comedy The Interview, early reports say audiences applaud the moment he's on screen. His star is truly going nova NT
AwfuLeeHandsome12/16/14 10:22 PM
x*Lol there was an email in the sony leak about him not really being into frankie... NT
Bleuag12/16/14 10:23 PM
x*Correct, and Zankie fans have threatened to boycott the movie if Zach does not announce on his The View appearance tomorrow that he hearts Frankie NT
AwfuLeeHandsome12/16/14 10:26 PM
x*I thought North Korea demanded he cancel his appearance? NT
Bleuag12/16/14 10:38 PM
x*you guys are cracking me up NT
BB_Fan_JJ_Dan12/17/14 12:41 PM
x*He has more potential than any other HG. he should probably get a job though. NT
Bleuag12/16/14 09:43 PM
x*He is getting his own show on CBS. It's on the down low right now. NT
Willizdabomb12/16/14 08:36 PM
x*I had a feeling that he was going to make it big NT
bbkook12/16/14 09:45 PM
x*Please tell me this is sarcasm. NT
ELPhill12/16/14 07:33 PM
x*This made me roar the loudest... NT
Spacefarer12/17/14 08:18 AM
*Poor Jess--she tries to do good and gets attacked. Other girls really do seem to be jealous of her. Tweets inside.
Corndogger597 17   12/16/14 06:52 PM
x*Not all women are jealous of her some of us just think she's a brat NT
bb_tracy12/17/14 07:43 AM
x*a brat and a drama magnet NT
rapidrewind12/17/14 10:25 AM
x*She really likes attention. What is the point of publicizing this? I know youre into her, but I thought she was kind of a brat. NT
Bleuag12/16/14 09:44 PM
x*I'm not into Jess the way you're implying. Besides, I'm unworthy of a goddess of such perfection. NT
Corndogger12/16/14 09:57 PM
x*I don't dislike Jessie but, your self esteem seems pretty low. I hope u can work on that. NT
Littlefinger12/17/14 02:09 PM
x*She was asked to do this so I don't see how this was an attention seeking stunt. I wasn't publicizing this. Just mentioned it as it's as BB-related
Corndogger12/16/14 09:53 PM
x*Not the youth empowerment speech, the giving some nobody attention on Twitter for being rude. NT
Bleuag12/16/14 10:22 PM
x*Can't tell a single thing from this tweet. NT
ELPhill12/16/14 07:35 PM
x*I screwed up in copying the second tweet. The girl threatened to hit Jess. There's some follow-up tweets of Jess being accused of promoting another
Corndogger12/16/14 08:48 PM
x*Drama always seems to follow her & it's never her fault. It must be the other girls are jealous of her looks like she said in the BB15 premiere. NT
Blockhead12/17/14 11:05 AM
x*lol I forgot about that NT
Belle12/17/14 01:53 PM
x*She has like 37k followers. Zankie fans I could see starting a riot. NT
Bleuag12/16/14 09:47 PM
x*Funny how she's always the victim and never the one doing something wrong NT
Heronimo12/16/14 07:17 PM
x*How could promoting youth empowerment be doing something wrong? She was asked 2 do it awhile ago. If she ever does something wrong I'll let U know. NT
Corndogger12/16/14 08:31 PM
x*Um, if it was Hitler Youth empowerment... That would be pretty wrong.
march_hair12/16/14 09:47 PM
x*Who needs powerful youths anyway NT
FurnitureAlliance12/17/14 02:28 AM
x*IKR NT
ELPhill12/16/14 07:34 PM
*It looks like Caleb is dating someone. He seems happy so good for him. She's very pretty and her daughter is adorable.
getitgirl1565 36   12/15/14 03:31 PM
x*Good looking couple. Caleb looks happy. Good for them. NT
Marceline12/16/14 07:06 PM
x*Just looke at her IG and she has a bunch of pics of her posing with dead animals she killed. Gross. NT
Littlefinger12/16/14 08:53 AM
x*they're perfect for each other NT
BB_Fan_JJ_Dan12/16/14 09:01 AM
x*^^Exactly. He loves that crap. NT
NSGirl12/16/14 11:18 AM
x*She is very attractive and seems like a nice lady... Nice to see Caleb is happy. NT
KarmaSaB12/16/14 08:44 AM
x*Maybe amber is the one messed up inside and insecure. She was thirsty for cody and he wants nothing to do with her. Never has never will. He didn't
CalebFan12/15/14 09:39 PM
x*amberwas the opposite of messed up when in the house, unlike caleb 'one foot in the looney bin' compulsive lying and stalker antics. NT
AceRimmer12/16/14 01:39 PM
x*I am not a huge Amber fan, simply because I find her bland and boring - but there is no way you blame her for Caleb's antics. NT
NSGirl12/16/14 05:42 AM
x*Even if Amber does like Cody how does that come close to comparing to Caleb's stalker antics? Can't blame the stalkee for being stalked. NT
eureca12/15/14 11:45 PM
x*It's maddening to me that people blame Amber for Caleb's AWFUL behavior in the house. It makes me sad for America sometimes. NT
CoyoteBB12/16/14 04:13 AM
x*Only trolls NT
Littlefinger12/16/14 08:43 AM
x*Amber said on BB that she liked biracial & black guys. I don't think she liked Cody that way, but you are right, she never stalked him. NT
robin012/16/14 12:26 AM
x*I thought she was really kind to cody and just wanted to help him out. NT
Bleuag12/15/14 10:52 PM
x*What does that have to do with Caleb? NT
robin012/15/14 09:42 PM
x*Maybe Caleb pays her to pretend she's his gf. Then again, even jailed felons have groupies. She might look good on the outside, messed up inside. NT
robin012/15/14 09:15 PM
x*Such a shame that sexist Misogynistic pigs continue to get women just cause of looks NT
BBFanJ12/15/14 08:54 PM
x*i'm surprised he didnt get that reality show he wanted. Caleb said he wanted to Date UGLY fat girls, sort of like the bachelor show. He wanted to act
AceRimmer12/16/14 01:41 PM
x*Hahahaha!!!!!! NT
robin012/16/14 02:15 PM
x*I can't ever imagine him being in a normal relationship NT
Bleuag12/15/14 08:25 PM
x*She's stunning! And way better looking then amber. They look great together. NT
CalebFan12/15/14 07:03 PM
x*Why do Caleb threads have to turn into "tear down Amber"? Sucks that she's always 'attached' to Caleb >>
luvmykitties12/16/14 05:45 AM
x*It's the same as the Zankie nonsense. NT
FurnitureAlliance12/17/14 02:32 AM
x*Why compare her to Amber, unless Amber gets under your skin? NT
robin012/15/14 09:18 PM
x*amber was a tall willowy model and that girl looks short and Thick in her pics. NO comparison needed. its all about personal taste and lets face it,
AceRimmer12/16/14 01:43 PM
x*Right you are. I just don't think men should compare gfs, just like women shouldn't compare bfs. NT
robin012/16/14 02:18 PM
x*no need to downplay someone else NT
Mishanb12/15/14 07:55 PM
x*Amber is stunning as well NT
bbkook12/15/14 07:30 PM
x*Is that the chubby one he was seen with right after BB? NT
robin012/15/14 06:30 PM
x* She's a fitness model NT
CalebFan12/15/14 07:04 PM
x*Ew that girl was manly and roided out. She was an "instagram fitness model" lol NT
Littlefinger12/16/14 08:46 AM
x*That did not answer the question. NT
robin012/15/14 09:16 PM
x*She's not fat at all NT
CalebFan12/15/14 09:32 PM
x*I asked if she's the one he picked up in a bar right after BB. If so, she was fat then. Ppl can diet. Still haven't answered the question. NT
robin012/15/14 09:34 PM
x*It isn't the same one. NT
Stella197112/16/14 12:33 AM
x*TY!! I couldn't tell under the hat. NT
robin012/16/14 12:41 AM
x*She is very pretty. They make a nice looking couple. NT
lianna12/15/14 03:53 PM
*Derrick and family take that cruise vacation
colleenag794 10   12/15/14 11:05 AM
x*Victoria is getting a huge dose of reality now. NT
robin012/15/14 06:31 PM
x*There is a picture of victoria with derrick on Twitter. I guess they met up tonight. NT
bbkook12/15/14 07:33 PM
x*Yup looks like they went out to dinner. I posted the pics in media. NT
BB_Fan_JJ_Dan12/15/14 10:06 PM
x*Cute pics! Glad they met up. lol at both Victoria & Zach both using the term "best friend" so loosely. NT
miss88012/15/14 11:15 PM
x*ikr lol oh well, we saw how needy Vic was towards Derrick in the house. I wouldn't be surprised if he's actually one of her best friends now NT
BB_Fan_JJ_Dan12/16/14 09:40 AM
x*Looks like Vic lost all the weight she gained on BB. NT
robin012/16/14 01:21 AM
x*Interesting that they'd make an article about this. He had it planned before going into the house lol. I'm curious as to whether he'll see Victoria
BB_Fan_JJ_Dan12/15/14 12:35 PM
x*Well, it's Big Brother Network writing the article. Slim pickins' in the off season. NT
miss88012/15/14 01:12 PM
x*Funny thing is that Amanda's sister was on the same cruise as Derrick and his family. NT
getitgirl12/15/14 11:12 AM
x*Small world NT
FurnitureAlliance12/15/14 02:24 PM
*Maybe old info, but Andrea Boehlke (reigning Miss Survivor) dished some funny tidbits on RHAP last week about the Rock of Ages opening night. She said
jovoh1547 21   12/15/14 03:59 AM
x*She's not wrong (I was there) but as for Zach being bombarded, that's not true... he never left his seat & left right after. Otherwise the BB HGs were
BB_Fan_JJ_Dan12/15/14 08:58 AM
x*Did Zach have a bodyguard? Or was it the Grandes's bodyguard? NT
Bleuag12/15/14 12:14 PM
x*I didn't see a "bodyguard" with anyone...there was a man who I saw direct Cody, Derrick, Caleb and Zach to a limo outside the theatre
colleenag12/15/14 12:44 PM
x*Don't understand why anyone would doubt the bodyguard story. Andrea isn't the only person claiming that. Other people were talking about bodyguards
march_hair12/15/14 02:51 PM
x*Has anyone thought to tweet or PM Derr/Cody/Zach/Caleb and ask? That would certainly clear things up. I was there, saw what I thought was a limo
colleenag12/15/14 02:58 PM
x*PS One of the reason for the doubt, which echos what Andrea said too, is that BB players are just not that famous and don't need bodyguards. NT
colleenag12/15/14 03:01 PM
x*Amber needed a bodyguard at the wrap party since Caleb had threatened her numerous times. NT
robin012/15/14 09:20 PM
x*Could be a driver/bodyguard NT
FurnitureAlliance12/15/14 03:01 PM
x*That makes sense to me ... that it could of been some kind of arrangement like that, driver who could double as a "guard" if there was any kind of
colleenag12/15/14 03:04 PM
x*I've known people who did that for a living (driver/guard) and I'd think off duty cops would do Derrick that solid. NT
FurnitureAlliance12/15/14 03:06 PM
x*I saw Derrick & Jana go in & he wasn't with them... don't think he was with Derrick NT
BB_Fan_JJ_Dan12/15/14 03:50 PM
x*He was in the theater...told people the BB cast wouldn't be doing pictures & to clear the aisle. After Derr & Cody left their seats & came out anyway.
BB_Fan_JJ_Dan12/15/14 01:45 PM
x*I certainly did miss this. If this guy was a bodyguard how do we know who he was guarding? I find it hard to believe someone who wasn't associated
colleenag12/15/14 01:50 PM
x*Maybe he was an off duty cop friend of Derrick's? NT
FurnitureAlliance12/15/14 02:23 PM
x*I guess if Pao was there, she probably knows bouncer types to bring along. NT
Bleuag12/15/14 10:31 PM
x*So now Pow is the one that brought the bodyguard? Even though people saw Zach with a bodyguard?
march_hair12/16/14 09:59 PM
x*That makes sense, colleenag. I can't imagine why Zach would've had a bodyguard with him anyway. NT
debbiedu2212/15/14 12:52 PM
x*not sure. He stood on the side of Zach, Derrick & Cody, not Joan Grande or Frankie's grandmother... so i'm guessing Zach's. NT
BB_Fan_JJ_Dan12/15/14 12:36 PM
x*Yup, old news from a jelly reality player. She prefaced all her "statements" with a resentful remark about a BB player (Jeff) doing all post-show
colleenag12/15/14 04:05 AM
x*Couldn't have gotten a more different impression from the podcast.
Freddy7912/15/14 09:04 AM
x*Nah, Andrea's chill and was just recounting the goofiness of the night in good fun. "Embarrassed for reality television" is a good line too. NT
jovoh12/15/14 05:05 AM
*Who do you wish was never casted on Big Brother? NT
AlphaDerp1005 42   12/14/14 02:13 AM
x*Frankie NT
bbfankat12/16/14 01:55 PM
x*Andy. NT
coronaL12/16/14 09:35 AM
x*Dick, Aaryn, GinaMarie NT
LilKsweezy12/15/14 02:42 PM
x*Amber, Gm and spencer NT
CalebFan12/15/14 12:16 PM
x*ED, Aaryn, Natalie, Frankie NT
getitgirl12/15/14 11:03 AM
x*Boogie. He just disgusts me. NT
CoyoteBB12/15/14 09:25 AM
x*Aaron and GM NT
rstevens12/15/14 08:51 AM
x*Creepy Caleb. NT
robin012/14/14 09:14 PM
x*agreed him and Aaryn & GM,Boogie & Justin,Mega & BB9. NT
keishi5912/15/14 05:44 PM
x*except for Alex BB9; he was gorgeous and a really nice guy too. My biggest bb crush ever. NT
spinsister12/16/14 04:13 AM
x*Yeah, he was an embarrassment on so many levels. NT
jay8812/15/14 10:48 AM
x*Justin the knife wielding lunatic. NT
robin012/14/14 09:14 PM
x*Willie Hantz. NT
robin012/14/14 09:13 PM
x*Good one, him too. Waste of a spot, stunt casting gone wrong. You should be stable to be on BB lol NT
BB_Fan_JJ_Dan12/15/14 09:04 AM
x*I actually liked Willie.. and then paranoia crept in his head.. Brit trying to talk him down was hilarious NT
AlphaDerp12/14/14 11:22 PM
x*i never watched that season of BB cause i dont think ANYONE with the name Hantz should be allowed back on tv LOL NT
AceRimmer12/14/14 10:29 PM
x*Willie was entertainment gold. I want to see him play again. NT
Corndogger12/14/14 10:01 PM
x*ED. NT
robin012/14/14 09:12 PM
x*Elissa. Her MVP deal ruined a good game. NT
FurnitureAlliance12/14/14 07:41 PM
x*Rachel, ED. NT
krh503812/14/14 06:31 PM
x*Andy, Frankie, AAryn,Beau,Holly,Cowboy, Natalie and Ronnie too name a few NT
MsRevRay12/14/14 06:00 PM
x*this is a really interesting question! it comes down to what kind of gameplay a person values. I didnt value quite a few players since BB1. When there
AceRimmer12/14/14 04:48 PM
x*Boogie, Adam, Dan, Rachel, Elissa, GM, Aaryn, Amanda, Frankie and Derrick. NT
scrutinize12/14/14 01:09 PM
x*IA with all but Derrick. NT
jay8812/15/14 10:46 AM
x*IA with all your choices except one...Dan was good season 10 (imo) I wish he never came back for season 14...changed my opinion of him NT
ShortJackie12/14/14 04:42 PM
x*That's true. Thanks. NT
scrutinize12/14/14 05:38 PM
x*Ian "Ketchup" Terry NT
Blockhead12/14/14 12:45 PM
x*AND Brittany the jury tainter! NT
jay8812/15/14 10:49 AM
x*all of 16 except Vic and Nicole..and Devin NT
Poz12/14/14 12:30 PM
x*I have no problems with any of the casting. You need villains and the crazies, as well as the faves to make the show interesting.
bbkook12/14/14 12:10 PM
x*Frankie, Derrick, GM, Andy, Helen, Ragan, BB13 Adam, BB13 Rachel/Brenden, BB13 Jeff/Jordan, the Fitness Twins, Kathy.
march_hair12/14/14 12:08 PM
x*I am sure there are more but these stick out...Boogie, Maggie, Dick, Dan, Jessie BB10, Aaryn, Amanda, Andy, GM, Jeremy, Derrick, Frankie NT
cdnshannon12/14/14 11:11 AM
x*Frank bb14... he was such a bitter juror. The season would have been very different without him. NT
BB_Fan_JJ_Dan12/14/14 10:59 AM
x*I could live with Frank as long as they cancel the reset. He would've been blindsided pre-jury and it would've been spectacular. NT
march_hair12/14/14 12:01 PM
x*Oh that would have been amazing. Agreed lol NT
BB_Fan_JJ_Dan12/15/14 09:04 AM
x*derrick NT
sliver01312/14/14 10:42 AM
x*Fakie ...with other seasons it was kinda fun to hate the villain, but he was just gross and BB shoved him down our throats and covered up >>>>
ShortJackie12/14/14 09:51 AM
x*Rachel R & Frankie NT
sailingsan12/14/14 09:14 AM
x*Jeff and Zach NT
NickyMaxwell12/14/14 09:06 AM
x*BB16's Zach. I didn't find him funny, entertaining, or likable at all. NT
AjCarl12/14/14 07:54 AM
x*on the show I found him to be kind of a lovable train wreck...but now he's just a really annoying, immature, broken record NT
ShortJackie12/14/14 09:53 AM
x*Evil.Dick NT
waypast4012/14/14 05:34 AM
*I still don't understand why Zach got mad at Misscleo? Wasnt Mc just saying that he didnt want to be attacked by fans so he asked Zach not to
AjCarl1886 22   12/13/14 03:22 PM
x*Miss Cleo seems like a nice guy, but from interviews during season he seemed overly obsessed with Zach, almost to the point of bunny boiler cray. NT
bbkook12/14/14 12:17 PM
x*Ya, and the interview was so awkward BC he wanted so desperately for Zach to bad mouth Frankie. NT
Bleuag12/15/14 12:16 PM
x*From what I understand, it wasn't just that,
KarenC312/14/14 12:45 AM
x*So sick of Zach, but, glad someone finally called out MC for being a slimy person NT
Heronimo12/13/14 05:20 PM
x*In Miss Cleo's twitter post he mentioned that one of Zach's fans wished cancer on him during his ZRL show (which Zach was using as a platform >>
BrentDamon12/13/14 03:39 PM
x*Some of Zach's fans, the extra crazy Zankie ones, are horrible. lol. That's one truth in all of this. NT
miss88012/13/14 06:41 PM
x*Agreed. I don't know about cancer wishes but I did peek in that chat and the vitriol towards Cleo was def out of proportion to his mild trolling, NT
NineLives12/14/14 05:48 AM
x*Andrea from Survivor was at ROA. She said these fans were embarrassing and inappropriate both during and after the show. NT
march_hair12/13/14 07:17 PM
x*I know things went down at ROA, but I'm talking about it all. Online- twitter, tumblr, they are some awfully mean ones out there. NT
miss88012/13/14 08:30 PM
x*Really? I thought she went after the BB16 crew? Was she talking about Frankie fans only or Zankie? NT
BrentDamon12/13/14 07:21 PM
x*She didn't mention the Zach stalkers. But did say the other fans were disruptive during the show with excessive cheering and ovations. And >>
march_hair12/13/14 10:13 PM
x*she went the opening night, but went with frankies nyc friends, did not sit in the front with the bb people
rapidrewind12/13/14 07:42 PM
x*Huh? I was there that night, yeah, we got a lil love for Frankie going on, but soon Derrick, Cody and Zach came back to stage door Left
colleenag12/13/14 07:59 PM
x*Are you sure you were there? Every account I read had Derrick, Cody and Caleb returning while Zach bolted. NT
NineLives12/14/14 05:49 AM
x*Umm, yes, I'm sure I was there. After the show, we waited by the stage door. Derrick, Caleb, Cody and Zach raced to their "limo" at first and we
colleenag12/14/14 06:45 AM
x*zach didn't take pictures. i remember clearly people annoyed they couldn't get a picture with "zankie" when they were at a damn show, not a bb meet
rapidrewind12/14/14 07:08 AM
x*Honestly, I had no problem with Zach and his behavior. I was there to see Frankie in the show, hang out with joker friends and have a good time.
colleenag12/14/14 07:28 AM
x*Cheering when it's not warranted can be just as disruptive as booing. Other people were there to see the show, not Frankie or the BB cast. When actors
march_hair12/14/14 01:42 PM
x*I was there and did not feel the enjoyment of the show was in anyway disrupted by the applause. Nor did I see any fans push the other
colleenag12/14/14 01:47 PM
x*You didn't, but Andrea's account still holds up. NT
NineLives12/14/14 10:47 AM
x*miss cleo has also been tweeting things about how zach friend's are baiting his followers and how zach secretly hates his followers
rapidrewind12/13/14 04:05 PM
x*ahh ok makes way more sence now haha, I was so confused. And that MC was very nasty towards people all summer. Glad to see someone put him in place NT
AjCarl12/13/14 03:49 PM
*Wow, can't believe that Zach Rance twitter war made the article lol. MC comes across crazy. All credibility is gone. >>
BrentDamon627 6   12/13/14 02:58 PM
x*"have been reported to Twitter" Uh oh, they're really in trouble now. NT
Heronimo12/14/14 12:02 AM
x*All you have to do is follow MC for a few days to see how crazy he is. Zach is better off staying far away. NT
eureca12/13/14 04:20 PM
x*Cleo was inferring a relationship he didnt have with Zach and apparently
Lashaun_BB12/13/14 03:25 PM
x*You didn't enjoy this? Pretty funny in my book ! (referring to the youtube show, not the twitter war).
colleenag12/13/14 03:19 PM
x*"All credibility is gone" yet whatever he speculate on is taken as gospel just before each season starts NT
uvp12/13/14 03:00 PM
x*I mean, he was caught in a blatant lie and called out on it....so. In my eyes his credibility is gone. I can't speak for anyone else. NT
BrentDamon12/13/14 03:11 PM
*A few pics from Zach's NOH8 photoshoot.
Lashaun_BB593 4   12/13/14 02:16 PM
x*I thought the guy in the black shirt, first link, was Dan when pic first came up. NT
ringo912/13/14 04:58 PM
x*Another pic from Zach's acct
Lashaun_BB12/13/14 02:55 PM
x*Love that he's involved, but he should really shave off that "facial hair" lol! NT
AlphaDerp12/13/14 06:18 PM
x*Yeah, nice support Zach! And ya know, he is in that fame "fan", being twirled around...good to see him take it in a positive way!
colleenag12/13/14 02:59 PM
*Who are some not so popular hg's that you would like to see back on bb to play again? NT
uvp264 11   12/13/14 01:04 PM
x*Matt Hoffman, Alex BB9 and Brian BB10 NT
spinsister12/16/14 04:39 AM
x*michele NT
sliver01312/14/14 10:41 AM
x*Laura, Jody, Libra. NT
march_hair12/13/14 02:44 PM
x*libra could have used her on a few of those brigade type season NT
uvp12/13/14 02:57 PM
x*Always liked Laura, she was a beautiful strong woman NT
colleenag12/13/14 02:46 PM
x*Do you mean not popular as in not liked? Or not popular as in Not a big Character/relevant? If the first I'd like Devin and Amanda NT
AjCarl12/13/14 02:04 PM
x*like those choices NT
colleenag12/13/14 02:39 PM
x*good distinction ...i was referring to the first one NT
uvp12/13/14 02:06 PM
x*Dick would be great TV NT
FurnitureAlliance12/13/14 01:51 PM
x*Ah, would he ever do it? could he? NT
colleenag12/13/14 02:40 PM
x*i wouldnt mind seeing ronnie again...interesting character NT
uvp12/13/14 01:56 PM
*I had no idea Zach was a pot head lol, Guess I must have missed him saying this. When/where did he say he smokes pot everyday? NT
AjCarl383 9   12/13/14 08:22 AM
x*it was posted about numerous times, often brought up by myself. Frankie and zach had bonding chats, frankie about his booze, zach re/smoking weed
AceRimmer12/13/14 11:14 AM
x*Well I thought I watched the feeds a lot but I missed all this.I was probably sleeping during these chats! Explains a lot about his behavior. NT
Mazita12/13/14 11:24 AM
x*i think they used playstation as a codeword on the feeds NT
bigtimebbfan12/13/14 08:32 AM
x*their version of banana bread :p NT
uvp12/13/14 08:54 AM
x*That's hilarious. I wonder what Der thought when they said they use their Playstation everyday, or they miss their Playstation. Ha. NT
robin012/13/14 08:46 AM
x*i wonder what they thought when they found out derrick was a cop! haha NT
rapidrewind12/13/14 10:10 AM
x*They are probably telling him to forget all the drug talk. After all, you know it was just a joke (wink). NT
robin012/13/14 11:38 AM
x*AHA! My conspriracy is correct! Detective Derrick secretly arrested all remaining hgs after the divulged personal information while he was underc NT
colleenag12/13/14 02:44 PM
x*LOL yes I would like to know too! NT
Mazita12/13/14 11:25 AM
*Was Victoria the first person to make F2 without doing or winning anything? NT
AlphaDerp505 15   12/12/14 11:32 PM
x*OK, yes F3. so mad that i wanted her gone first and she hung around all season. Oy. NT
colleenag12/13/14 03:30 PM
x*i wanted her gone too....but i did think it would be funny if cody took her to the end and won the game....that never came to reality thou NT
uvp12/13/14 04:01 PM
x*And, they hated her, lol, ok not "hated" but were so unimpressed with her as we were that they dragged her to F3, like Spencer lol, and then boom NT
colleenag12/13/14 04:06 PM
x*Ugh, if only Cody had taken her over Derrick she would've actually served some purpose in that house. NT
RatFloater12/14/14 09:27 PM
x*Your question makes incorrect assumptions. She did things and she won things. NT
banner_boy12/13/14 11:35 AM
x*victoria did talk alot.Dr will talked alot and never won squat. i still back whomever said a few weeks ago that they sort of played a similar game NT
AceRimmer12/13/14 11:16 AM
x*in terms of f3 resume she probably had the weakest one NT
uvp12/13/14 08:46 AM
x*Does she finally realize how Der used her? Or does she still think he & his fam are going to hang out with her? NT
robin012/13/14 08:43 AM
x*I thought she used Derrick also, he was just better at it :) NT
AprilSky12/13/14 08:59 AM
x*Excellent point! NT
robin012/13/14 11:39 AM
x*What do you mean she didn't do or win anything? lol. NT
miss88012/12/14 11:42 PM
x*this season with botb if you hung around long enough you were guaranteed to win something ..... kinda like a child getting a participation reward
uvp12/13/14 08:48 AM
x*The only comp she won on her own was the POV that Caleb gave her so that he could take home a prize. Victoria sucked at comps. NT
march_hair12/13/14 12:43 AM
x*she maybe one of the worst competitor of all-time ....sad thing is she was probably not the worst of this season .....that honor would go to
uvp12/13/14 08:50 AM
x*F3*** lol NT
AlphaDerp12/12/14 11:33 PM
*Zach is going to be on Bold and Beautiful again in Feb
bb_tracy718 12   12/12/14 01:46 PM
x*Didn't know anyone other than Grannies watched soap operas anymore. He sucks as an actor so what is the point? NT
ELPhill12/12/14 08:48 PM
x*there are lots of evening soaps too. I consider most of the primetime dramas extremely similar to daytime soaps. NT
AceRimmer12/13/14 11:17 AM
x*I'm 27 I watch Y&R. I have since I was about 12. B&B is like the redheaded stepchild of soaps. That's why they let so many nobodys on it. Although Dr
krh503812/12/14 10:12 PM
x*To be fair, Poppy Carlton failed her B&B audition. So they do have some standards. NT
march_hair12/12/14 10:16 PM
x*Even my own grandmother gave up on B&B before she died, because she got sick of the gimmicky storylines. Tailer was the character that made her quit >
march_hair12/12/14 09:12 PM
x*Ron Moss leaving did in the show for me. NT
kaper12/13/14 04:40 AM
x*I watch B&B and Y&R (since I was 13..I'm 33 now)..#1 I never liked Ron Moss (creepy)#2 I like masculine new Ridge #3 I'm getting VERY annoyed >>>>
ShortJackie12/14/14 04:50 PM
x*look at those eyes !! just sayin. Wish he never told us on cam he was a daily pot smoker, it kinda ruins it for me. NT
AceRimmer12/12/14 03:10 PM
x*Why? B&B fans all seemed to hate the last BB takeover. Why are they doing another one? NT
march_hair12/12/14 02:40 PM
x*so are Rachel & Brendon... they posted pics with Zach on Instagram last night NT
BB_Fan_JJ_Dan12/12/14 01:58 PM
x*Good 4 Zach! I hope if there's an AS2 he comes back, I really do...hope he's learned to just be his best self! NT
colleenag12/12/14 01:49 PM
x*thanks bb NT
Belle12/12/14 01:47 PM
*Looks like Zach "Attack" is back >>>
BrentDamon3536 51   12/11/14 04:26 PM
x*So Zach unfollowed miss cleo and miss cleo tweeted about it and instead of addressing it directly Zach let someone post DM's? Sounds childish. NT
Brian36212/12/14 05:22 PM
x*That's Zach! NT
miss88012/12/14 06:01 PM
x*^^ He was definitely himself in the BB house... he acts exactly the same lol NT
BB_Fan_JJ_Dan12/12/14 07:53 PM
x*These people need to stop obsessing over BB and BB house guests and get out and live life. It's crazy. NT
NSGirl12/12/14 09:10 AM
x*Oh my, considering we are all here STILL checking out whats going on with the houseguests, maybe a bit of kettle calling pot black? I think we are all
AceRimmer12/12/14 03:08 PM
x*there's a line, and some people cross it. I agree with NS NT
BB_Fan_JJ_Dan12/12/14 07:53 PM
x*and i agree with NS too. My post is About the online people in ALL aspects of BB NT
AceRimmer12/12/14 10:00 PM
x*Apparently a Miss Cleo supporter went off on Twitter and now Zach's mom deactivated her account. People need to step back, this is ridiculous. NT
miss88012/12/14 10:46 AM
x*Well, who would know Zach better, his mom or someone on Twitter who watched the TV show and maybe the feeds? NT
Blockhead12/12/14 10:48 AM
x*you mean his mom or Miss Cleo, right? Agreed.. MC acted like Zach's keeper. NT
BB_Fan_JJ_Dan12/12/14 01:58 PM
x*?? NT
miss88012/12/14 11:26 AM
x*Yeah, no clue NT
Littlefinger12/12/14 06:21 PM
x*That confused me too. NT
ELPhill12/12/14 11:55 AM
x*maybe bb is their way to live life :p....i know so many of these folks would be irrelevant without bb ....... NT
uvp12/12/14 09:16 AM
x*This is embarrassing to everyone involved, all they are too invested in these crazy fanwars, and feeding from them. NT
mokhashin12/12/14 06:01 AM
x*Who the eff is Miss Cleo, and why should I care? Also, how stupid is Zach for trusting this random internet person in the first place? NT
march_hair12/11/14 10:47 PM
x*zach unfollowed MC without saying anything..zach only got angry in DMs bc MC lied about *asking* zach to unfollow him
jenny64912/11/14 08:17 PM
x*my opinion is that Lots can be said in person, on phone, in private messages etc. We DONT KNOW what really went down. I've read a few links provided
AceRimmer12/12/14 08:22 AM
x*why should he say anything? was he supposed to give a courtesy explanation for the unfollow? :p NT
uvp12/11/14 08:42 PM
x*dont you always provide a courtesy explanation when you unfollow people on twitter? :P people have no manners these days NT
jenny64912/11/14 08:49 PM
x*Zach is and always will be an idiot. NT
ELPhill12/11/14 07:39 PM
x*he just unfollowed the guy, he didn't get angry publicly till he wrote that letter saying they text and talk privately, which was a lie
rapidrewind12/11/14 08:34 PM
x*All Miss Cleo said was that they discussed something privately. Once? If it was a lie, OK be mad, but Zach sent his crazies out for the kill. Eek. NT
miss88012/11/14 10:38 PM
x*nah, that misscleo has been saying stuff about zach as if it was fact since the show ended, zach never commented till now, prob just reached some
rapidrewind12/12/14 04:04 AM
x*Zach's reaction makes me feel like they spoke but he didn't want his fans that dislike Cleo to know about it. Could be wrong. NT
HumblePie12/12/14 01:23 AM
x*Recap from a blog..
Lacey158712/11/14 06:56 PM
x*Is that how things are in Zach's Twitter world on a daily basis? No way could I handle crap like that all the time. Mariah's my favorite from BB16
Corndogger12/11/14 11:25 PM
x*Zach's 15 minutes are up and running out of things to be relevant about. NT
ELPhill12/11/14 07:42 PM
x*Miss Cleo is a lot of things, I agree with that, but he's always been a huge supporter of Zach. I wonder what happened to trigger this - now. NT
miss88012/11/14 07:10 PM
x*He was Zach's BIGGEST supporter...always on his side. >>
BrentDamon12/11/14 07:13 PM
x*Being the biggest supporter in the world doesn't stop someone from being a terrible person. NT
StaticAirwave12/13/14 01:59 AM
x*Yeah, MC crosses the line a lot, but loves Zach. I don't agree with a lot of what he says, but this sounds to me like the crazy Zankie fans...
miss88012/11/14 07:21 PM
x*Kinda irks me that he's letting them win. It's like he's being swallowed up with that mob. And I legit think they are..."unpleasant" for lack of >>
BrentDamon12/11/14 07:43 PM
x*I find it a surprised every time I read miss cleo isn't a girl NT
Belle12/12/14 10:43 AM
x*and i keep thinking Clio the Leo but its CLEO NT
AceRimmer12/12/14 10:02 PM
x*LOL, I was just thinking that reading this thread. Every season I forget and I am reminded by a thread. NT
Brian36212/12/14 05:12 PM
x*Same. I find it real confusing. NT
Blockhead12/12/14 10:50 AM
x*Cleo's a troll - he did ask for this. That said, he was also much more supportive of Zach than the people gloating now. The whole thing is a mess. NT
NineLives12/11/14 08:05 PM
x*Yep, IA *sigh. NT
BrentDamon12/11/14 08:21 PM
x*IA that Cleo is a stirrer but Zach's response to his original post is confusing bc it isn't rude in anyway towards Zach. NT
HumblePie12/11/14 07:27 PM
x*miss cleo lied about talking privately to zach and asking zach to unfollow him and implied they text each other...id be pissed too NT
jenny64912/11/14 08:41 PM
x*IA Zach comes off like a big douche. NT
ELPhill12/11/14 07:43 PM
x*Explain NT
Littlefinger12/11/14 06:50 PM
x*Basically these links explain it all >>>
BrentDamon12/11/14 07:01 PM
x*Yeah, a little elaboration would be lovely! lol. NT
miss88012/11/14 06:52 PM
x*Miss Cleo is a Twitter trouble maker. He's so annoying and fights with Zach and Frankie fans like he's in junior high. NT
Mommafishy212/11/14 06:45 PM
x*I used to think he was clever but i've come to realize he's just another obsessed BB fan who thinks he's always right& using his connections in the BB
BB_Fan_JJ_Dan12/11/14 06:53 PM
x*This is exactly what I feel happened to Brian Lynch from RHAP (Rob Cesternino's site) Brian was a co-host to a very popular live recap show with Rob.
kaper12/12/14 04:44 AM
x*Yup. What is it about Zach that makes people go crazy?! lol. He's basically the cause of Brian & Miss Cleo going nuts, among other Zankie fans cray
BB_Fan_JJ_Dan12/12/14 08:57 AM
x*have they shown a history of going crazy ? if yes i dont think zach is the trigger ....seem it might be the whole bb experience get to some and not
uvp12/12/14 09:13 AM
x*You're exactly right about him thinking he's always right. If it was easier to find specific threads I'd cite a perfect example from BB15. NT
Corndogger12/11/14 08:28 PM
*Not sure if it's been mentioned but I was just watching the latest episode of Tattoo Nightmares and I am sure I just saw Amber Borzotra in a
CaliZonaGirl378 1   12/10/14 11:48 PM
x*She confirmed it was her.On Twitter when someone asked her about it.NT
keishi5912/12/14 07:20 AM
*Would you like to see a player compete on all 3 CBS shows? BB TAR SUR. If so, whom? NT
Poz900 26   12/10/14 09:31 PM
x*The Twinnies would be awesome on BB NT
FurnitureAlliance12/12/14 11:13 AM
x*I don't think they'd make it far. we know they are dangerous now :) NT
Belle12/12/14 11:14 AM
x*i thought a few hg's were dangerous when they did bb a second time but with how twist were structure they made it far ......others made it far
uvp12/13/14 09:12 AM
x*Usually newbies get dazzled by 'star power' of people like that and they want to work with them. Vets might not give enough credit since they
FurnitureAlliance12/12/14 11:18 AM
x*no its incestuous enough already. not sure if thats the right term but its like BB contestants while ON THE season think they'll do AR/predictable NT
AceRimmer12/12/14 08:26 AM
x*Hayden already has 2 out of 3 down. He could bring Matt or Lane to TAR. NT
krh503812/11/14 11:39 AM
x*Nah, Matt and Lane aren't well-known. His best shot would've been w/ Kat but she didn't even make jury. NT
RatFloater12/11/14 09:11 PM
x*Natalie, twinnie on Survivor right now. While they annoyed me at first, she's doing SO WELL and saving Survivor for me this season. Smart, funny
jammin_jen12/11/14 07:13 AM
x*That's what inspired me to ask this. She was so good last night NT
Poz12/11/14 01:30 PM
x*She is single-handedly saving this season of Survivor. BB needs to cast more women of substance like her. NT
RatFloater12/11/14 09:25 PM
x*IA. I have been really surprised at how well she is playing. Didn't like her and her twin on TAR. She is definitely my fav to win. NT
OUALUMinTX12/12/14 02:24 PM
x*ITA. NT
FrouFrou12/11/14 09:35 AM
x*Definitely. I would love to see her do BB next. NT
robin012/11/14 07:21 AM
x*that would be interesting... the twinnies definitely have big personalities & would be good characters for the house. NT
BB_Fan_JJ_Dan12/11/14 09:41 AM
x*Their speech impediments would drive me nuts in the BB house. The other twin's was more pronounced than Natalie's. NT
KryptoKel12/11/14 09:46 AM
x*It's an accent not an impediment. NT
ELPhill12/11/14 07:45 PM
x*LOL I thought it was an accent. NT
TrinaE12/11/14 10:30 AM
x*pretty sure it is eek lol NT
BB_Fan_JJ_Dan12/11/14 12:48 PM
x*yea I don't hear a speech impediment NT
Belle12/11/14 10:31 AM
x*in my area there are over 50% minority cultures. I dont hear accent or socalled Impediment, i like the singsongy rhythm of the way she speaks. NT
AceRimmer12/12/14 09:35 AM
x*I love the way she speaks too NT
FurnitureAlliance12/12/14 11:13 AM
x*Step back from the ledge. That is taking it a bit far. LOL NT
ELPhill12/12/14 11:58 AM
x*I would like to see a player compete on BB, The Price is Right, and Jeopardy, all in the same BB season. NT
banner_boy12/10/14 11:53 PM
x*I think Hayden would be great on TAR ;) NT
vivalepoire12/10/14 10:12 PM
x*i only watch bb so not really NT
uvp12/10/14 09:40 PM
x*I would like to see TAR teams race through the Survivor camps and the BB house, and have to do a challenge at each place to get the next clue. NT
outsidedahouse12/11/14 10:40 AM
*I want a BB house decorated like the bunker in After The Dark NT
mebe40 0   12/10/14 06:42 PM
*Is this very weird or am I missing something? A fan (@alwaysNicody--huh?!) bought Nic a piece of Tiffany jewelry--she's happy! Tweet & pic inside.
Corndogger1181 18   12/10/14 12:26 PM
x*It isn't weird someone sent it. It is weird she publically acknowledged the gift from a "Nicody" fan when she is with hayden. NT
Brian36212/10/14 04:12 PM
x*nobody takes nicody seriously. NT
sliver01312/11/14 10:46 AM
x*anna kendrick throws out all gifts she receives, doesn't even want to give them away. tossed out a diamond once a stalker sent, supposedly. NT
banner_boy12/10/14 03:03 PM
x*hmm that's very specific details :) NT
AwfuLeeHandsome12/10/14 03:05 PM
x*she talked about on a marc maron WTF show, said even giving it away would feel odd. NT
banner_boy12/10/14 05:32 PM
x*donating the gifts would be the right thing to do in that situation imo... NT
BB_Fan_JJ_Dan12/10/14 06:18 PM
x*^^ this NT
AlphaDerp12/10/14 07:51 PM
x*Jump to 23:30 point in this WTF podcast - more about her receiving gifts directly from fans....
banner_boy12/10/14 08:52 PM
x*lol that's hilarious NT
Poz12/10/14 05:15 PM
x*lol NT
sliver01312/10/14 03:13 PM
x*That's a pretty lavish gift to give someone you don't know, but if they have the money to spend more power to them. Nicole was thankful. NT
ProteusVulgaris12/10/14 02:58 PM
x*it is no weirder than the baskets that were sent to jani and will :) folks become overzealous about their favs :) NT
Belle12/10/14 01:19 PM
x*Thats sweet. Whats the difference between someone buying Zach a PS4 & buying a bracelet for Nicole? Pieces like that arent expensive either. $150 NT
Littlefinger12/10/14 01:08 PM
x*i'm sure they've all received nice stuff. and what are they supposed to do, throw it away? accept it, enjoy it and say thanks NT
rapidrewind12/10/14 03:34 PM
x*cash out or donate IMHO. NT
AceRimmer12/12/14 09:37 AM
x*$150 gift for someone you don't know (I'm assuming that's the case here) is expensive to me. I also have to wonder what Hayden thinks about this as
Corndogger12/10/14 01:34 PM
x*I can't afford to buy myself Tiffany's jewelry much less someone else. And a Nicody fan? NT
DrWillfan12/10/14 12:31 PM
x*The stupidity of some people (fans) never ceases to amaze me. NT
KryptoKel12/11/14 09:55 AM
*I was so disappointed that they didn't spend a lot of time in the Tree House/Chess area This season! That was my favorite part of the house :) NT
AjCarl455 13   12/10/14 12:01 PM
x*Stealth Mode Cowboy up there was one of the funniest things this season NT
lianna12/11/14 03:25 PM
x*They really didn't spend a ton of time in the HOH room either. They spent more time in the living room than most casts though it seems. NT
krh503812/11/14 11:40 AM
x*The bedrooms were most popular... a lot of game was spoken in the Fire Room (because of Derrick). I thought they used HOH quite a bit NT
BB_Fan_JJ_Dan12/11/14 12:49 PM
x*They also used the living room more than other casts did. Most casts seem to avoid it. NT
FurnitureAlliance12/12/14 02:52 AM
x*I don't think they liked the chess board because it had some raised squares I think. NT
FurnitureAlliance12/11/14 04:11 AM
x*Derrick, the gatekeeper probably had to pre-approve chess dates days in advance. not worth the trouble honestly.. NT
Poz12/10/14 05:17 PM
x*LOL NT
FrouFrou12/11/14 09:37 AM
x*Lol. Think it's possible the majority didn't know how to play. NT
scrutinize12/10/14 08:45 PM
x*Ha. I think you are correct. NT
robin012/11/14 07:23 AM
x*That didn't happen. NT
Brian36212/10/14 05:50 PM
x*you don't say?! NT
Poz12/10/14 06:17 PM
x*lol NT
AjCarl12/10/14 07:12 PM
x*mine too, not that I'm a chess fan, but I loved looking around the area NT
seahorse12/10/14 04:50 PM
*The Pre-Season of BB Is my Favorite Part..It's like Christmas. Looking at the HG Photos, Watching their interviews, or my favorite part, watching
AjCarl184 3   12/10/14 11:57 AM
x*it is my favorite time too....i have always said that.....lines are barely drawn in the preseason for particular hg's that goes out the window
uvp12/10/14 12:31 PM
x*I love thinking back to my first impressions of the HGs in mid and post season.... & try to remember my thoughts about them before I was biased lol NT
BB_Fan_JJ_Dan12/10/14 12:43 PM
x*(And OFC hearing the new twist that half end up hating or despising) ;) NT
AjCarl12/10/14 12:06 PM
*Frankie is being interviewed on HLN right now NT
Lashaun_BB137 2   12/10/14 11:28 AM
x*how come? NT
Belle12/10/14 11:31 AM
x*His social media presence,his AMA outfit,Ari NT
Lashaun_BB12/10/14 12:12 PM
*Zach is doing another live stream/telethon for the Housel twins. He's on a roll. Link inside.
NineLives600 9   12/09/14 07:02 PM
x*I think what Zach is doing beyond commendable but i hope
Lashaun_BB12/10/14 01:40 PM
x*yes, there is a fundraising event in his hometown this month, caleb is going as well as other local reality show contestants NT
rapidrewind12/10/14 03:31 PM
x*I was a big Zach fan. I watched it for 30 seconds, couldn't do it much longer. At least he is raising money for a good cause. NT
Willizdabomb12/10/14 12:35 PM
x*I really like zach but that show was awful. When his little brother came on I logged out. NT
CalebFan12/10/14 05:58 AM
x*His star is really shining now, he has found a way to broadcast on the Internet on a near daily basis. Hollywood, here comes Zach Attack! NT
AwfuLeeHandsome12/09/14 09:13 PM
x*Huge Zach fan while he was on the show. TBH i now could care less. The Housel twins stuff almost feels like spam at this point. Sorry. NT
Littlefinger12/09/14 07:10 PM
x*I'm just the opposite. I could care less for Zac on the show, but I have a new-found respect for him now. He has taken on a cause, and is giving it
LibraLady12/09/14 09:25 PM
x*Thanks for caring :-) (since you COULD care less) NT
LilKsweezy12/09/14 09:07 PM
x*I can think of far worse ways he could be spending his spare time. NT
NineLives12/09/14 09:05 PM
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