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*James opening his big package from BB right now on Periscope. NT
banner_boy1 2   10/09/15 01:01 PM
x*flip down envelope thing from the POV comp he won. NT
banner_boy10/09/15 01:03 PM
x*clothing that he would have gotten had he been HOH again. lol NT
banner_boy10/09/15 01:02 PM
*Anyone in NYC play a day long BB game on 10/31?...
BlondeLife40 0   10/09/15 11:59 AM
*Becky made it to Scranton. Cute pic.
OUALUMinTX205 1   10/09/15 11:39 AM
x*oddly, John's breasts are more prominent than Becky's in that photo. NT
banner_boy10/09/15 11:54 AM
*Has ED said anything concerning his show with the twins tonight? Twins plugged it last night which kind of surprised me given all the cancellations NT
Corndogger12 2   10/09/15 11:03 AM
x*they told Ed that last year too, you think he would know that by now, he charges for his show no he can't interview them NT
MsRevRay10/09/15 12:22 PM
x*I saw a tweet from him yesterday that cbs won't allow him to interview any bb17 houseguests. Maybe the twins don't know yet. ? NT
SockThief10/09/15 11:07 AM
*Are the Nick Uhas and Kevin Campbell interviews good? NT
Shar13 1   10/09/15 10:51 AM
x*They are they most charismatic (besides Rob Cesternino), so it's fun to watch. They don't ask the most interesting questions though. NT
Bleuag10/09/15 01:02 PM
*For James & Meg fans - Meg being interviewed by Andrea Boehlke with a surprise appearance by James
PSister146 5   10/09/15 09:45 AM
x*Andrea's doing work for People now? Good for her if true. She's one of my favorite Survivor players. NT
Corndogger10/09/15 10:55 AM
x*He's like an antelope in the jungle lol NT
VelvetWind10/09/15 10:49 AM
x*I laughed at that cuz antelopes are the hunted not the hunter! NT
SockThief10/09/15 11:40 AM
x*It must have been planned.. James didn't barge in lol NT
VelvetWind10/09/15 12:25 PM
x*I love James but it's true- he keeps popping up on Meg's interviews. Let the girl have her moment!! NT
BB_Fan_JJ_Dan10/09/15 10:28 AM
*Just doing a quick scan -- have Austin and Liz broke up yet? I have NO CLUE why I'm curious! It is none of my business. But they generated the...
Iris265 15   10/09/15 06:33 AM
x*Can we get a sticky at the top to indicate their status please? NT
all8up10/09/15 12:16 PM
x*LOL! Liz said they are still together on younow. NT
bbnoobie10/09/15 11:58 AM
x*I will say I think Liz and Julia are delightful. I loved watching them have their sister chats (like in the hammock). I don't like Austin though. NT
Iris10/09/15 11:38 AM
x*Not a Liztin fan, but is it strange to feel bad that they might have to avoid BB sites so they don't have see ppl waiting for their demise? NT
SockThief10/09/15 10:02 AM
x*The twins do a you now or periscope just about every other night. They get a lot of love from their fans & ignore neg stuff. They will be OK NT
ProteusVulgaris10/09/15 10:17 AM
x*Okay… lol… you are probably right. :) NT
SockThief10/09/15 10:20 AM
x*I don't think it's bad, just sensitive. And that's OK. Do you think they know about this site (Jokers)? NT
colleenag10/09/15 10:11 AM
x*Steve talked about Jokers so they know about it. I really like the twins so I hope they don't come here. NT
jerrijan10/09/15 10:45 AM
x*I find myself feeling protective of the twins, and it's completely stupid. I have no idea why. LOL They may not know about jokers, for all that. NT
SockThief10/09/15 10:22 AM
x*The main reason I am protective of them is because I know that the majority of the bashing they get is unjustified. NT
Penladu10/09/15 10:52 AM
x*I do find them annoying, don't like some of their behavior, don't think they added much to BB. I do think some of the hate they get is unjustified. NT
SockThief10/09/15 11:13 AM
x*LOL, love the book analogy! The last I read was the twins were going out to LA Oct 15 thru the 26 and staying with Austin? And they may travel to
colleenag10/09/15 06:42 AM
x*It's only been 12 days. Some gave it a month, so another 18 days at most. NT
CougarSpy10/09/15 09:27 AM
x*I give it until the end of Oct NT
bb_tracy10/09/15 09:39 AM
x*Well considering that they are going to see him on the 15th, he'd have to screw up pretty bad within that short amoint of time. NT
ProteusVulgaris10/09/15 10:13 AM
*I just watched the twins YouNow think from last night. Juj got Angela to join them for a bit. It's true--she sounds nothing like the twins. NT
Corndogger17 0   10/09/15 12:25 AM
*So did Vanessa mention anything about Austin in game and out of game?? NT
TruBeast2432 1   10/09/15 12:21 AM
x*in her interview for OTB with Spencer and cray NT
TruBeast2410/09/15 01:29 AM
*Omg, I still have an hour to go on the Vanessa OTB interview. She reminds me of the C3PO storytelling at end of Return of the Jedi. We're ewoks. NT
banner_boy1347 180   10/08/15 11:45 PM
x*I fell asleep with headphones on listening to it last night. I had a dream she was explaining to my boss how she played. Woke up to her still talking
dillybean10/09/15 09:35 AM
x*LOL I did that plenty of times during the season. I would fall asleep during feeds and have dreams that I was either playing BB or something
colleenag10/09/15 09:45 AM
x*I'm 10 minutes in and I already feel how great her interview was. That was a high level interview. I feel like I'm attending college class session NT
tofindmypassion10/09/15 04:21 AM
x*now she's doing high level interviews...she's still being overrated after the game is done. NT
sliver01310/09/15 10:07 AM
x*It was great.. You could tell they really enjoyed interviewing her NT
VelvetWind10/09/15 11:26 AM
x*Yep. NT
colleenag10/09/15 11:29 AM
x*Nah NT
dustysnemisis10/09/15 10:09 AM
x*have you ever seen claims of any other HG doing high level interviews? it's hilarious to me. NT
sliver01310/09/15 10:16 AM
x*Yes. Some interviews are a waste of time to listen to. NT
dustysnemisis10/09/15 10:19 AM
x*for sure, i just found the wording to be funny. someone the other day said she had the best post game hg interview ever. lmao NT
sliver01310/09/15 10:27 AM
x*I thought her post-game interview with Spencer and McCrae was off the hook, excellent. Looking forward to her blogs and future videos. NT
colleenag10/09/15 10:28 AM
x*Same here NT
VelvetWind10/09/15 11:12 AM
x*cool. NT
sliver01310/09/15 10:32 AM
x*Dan sold subscriptions to his blow-by-blow accounts and wrote books on BB which he profited by...Vanessa provided great insight for free...
colleenag10/09/15 10:18 AM
x*i have no problem with her doing interviews. NT
sliver01310/09/15 10:23 AM
x*I didn't say you did? NT
colleenag10/09/15 10:25 AM
x*then what was the point? sorry. NT
sliver01310/09/15 10:29 AM
x*I was remarking that some hgs have taken post game interviews to a new level...charging for basically the same information Vanessa gave for free. NT
colleenag10/09/15 10:30 AM
x*okay...awesome. glad she's doing it for free. NT
sliver01310/09/15 10:34 AM
x*Absolutely. She is breaking it down so well. Someone asked me to list "pieces" of her game I thought future hgs should emulate.see inside for short
colleenag10/09/15 05:00 AM
x*That's just common sense. Others past BB players have done that too. NT
CougarSpy10/09/15 09:11 AM
x*Do you know of any other houseguest, who at two different times in the game, insulated themselves with 3 different alliances at once?
colleenag10/09/15 09:15 AM
x*we usually call it playing all sides...it's not uncommon. NT
sliver01310/09/15 10:31 AM
x*Right! And who other Vanessa has been successful at it? We saw Jeff try this season and he failed miserably. Who other than Vanessa has been
colleenag10/09/15 10:37 AM
x*successful? she did finish 3rd...let's not forget that she actually lost the game. NT
sliver01310/09/15 10:44 AM
x*Let's also not forget that her strategy allowed her to make it to the last day in the house. That's not too bad. NT
olivia02410/09/15 11:34 AM
x*Comp wins were just as important for her. NT
gemstone10/09/15 11:38 AM
x*Well, yes, but that's almost like saying Velveeta made it to the last day in the house but not because she played a masterful game. NT
colleenag10/09/15 11:36 AM
x*Vanessa would of loved to win the game but is very pleased to know she is respected for her great game play by many fans and alumni. That is more
colleenag10/09/15 10:48 AM
x*You think that has anything to do with her being a multi-millionaire? If you need the money, does't matter how yo win as long as you win. NT
gemstone10/09/15 11:06 AM
x*I would agree it helps to not be desperate financially when playing BB or else (I will get flack for this) you end up pandering like James for AFP NT
colleenag10/09/15 11:10 AM
x*i'm sure, bet she'd be singing a different tune if she won...if this is what she's saying. NT
sliver01310/09/15 10:51 AM
x*Agree it would of been different but probably just as beautiful to listen to. NT
colleenag10/09/15 10:54 AM
x*Steve & Austwins NT
gemstone10/09/15 09:33 AM
x*Not really. Steve did not have deal with Sleeper Cell and Austwins did not have deal with SOS. Only Vanessa had real alliances with all 3 at once NT
colleenag10/09/15 10:14 AM
x*Real alliances? You can't have a "real" alliance if you have more than one. NT
gemstone10/09/15 10:22 AM
x*this is true. NT
sliver01310/09/15 10:36 AM
x*I disagree. Many past BB hgs have had "parachute" alliances and were loyal to both. Vanessa brought it to a higher level and protected her
colleenag10/09/15 10:24 AM
x*None of that is specific to Vanessa's game. What Vanessa did well is to convince her "real" alliance that she was not going after them so that even
gemstone10/09/15 07:38 AM
x*OK, while I agree that some of the points I made were just good game play let's give her credit for at least executing them. And there is one
colleenag10/09/15 07:55 AM
x*But that is why Steve did not bring her to the F2. If she had kept all her "greatness" to herself, Steve may have taken her. NT
gemstone10/09/15 08:04 AM
x*LOL. I really don't remember Vanessa "bragging", what I remember is her calling out Austin, Clay, JMac and Jeff. What I call straight
colleenag10/09/15 08:21 AM
x*Game theorist, all the blood on her hands, etc is all bragging in that she was pointing out she knew what she was doing & could win. NT
gemstone10/09/15 08:39 AM
x*not only did she brag but she was condescending in general. NT
sliver01310/09/15 10:52 AM
x*LOL well Jeff was silly, and James was insulting her :D NT
colleenag10/09/15 10:55 AM
x*and her brain doesn't work like that and do you understand...and so on. NT
sliver01310/09/15 10:56 AM
x*She mentioned she studied Game Theory as an undergraduate at Duke. Steve mentioned he went to Cornell. Both were proud of their studious
colleenag10/09/15 08:46 AM
x*She talked about the blood to everyone. Big difference between actually studying game theory vs being smart enough to go to an elite school. NT
gemstone10/09/15 08:49 AM
x*I heard her talk about blood post game but not so much in the game but we can disagree on that. And it's my understanding that Duke is elite. NT
colleenag10/09/15 08:50 AM
x*She said it all the time. That the jury probably hates her because of it. Never said Duke wasn't an elite school. NT
gemstone10/09/15 09:01 AM
x*I think if Steve didn't win the F4 HOH and she knew Steve wouldn't take her to F2 at that week, she'll choose JMac rather than Steve. In other way,
tofindmypassion10/09/15 08:14 AM
x*She was completely fooled by Steve. Because he didn't "brag". She even said in the interview, she was surprised by Steve's great strategic game. NT
gemstone10/09/15 08:45 AM
x*Well, imo she was being kind. He would of put up the twins if Van and Jmac hadn't made him realize that would be a strategic mistake.
colleenag10/09/15 08:49 AM
x*Like Vanessa said his game was good after reading his blogs. She had no idea. Going to Cornell doesn't mean he would be good at game strategy. She
gemstone10/09/15 08:59 AM
x*Big IF Austin wins veto. Neither she nor Steve nor Jmac could foretell that. And Austin winning it, at least he takes himself down and Julia
colleenag10/09/15 09:06 AM
x*Point is it wouldn't be a mistake afterall if everything stayed the same. Putting up the twins was really only the worst move for Vanessa's game
gemstone10/09/15 09:30 AM
x*OK, I kinda follow what you're doing. Thing is Steve was putting up 2 of the Austwins and if things remain the same Austin probably goes as he
colleenag10/09/15 09:43 AM
x*But I don't want to emulate to reach 3rd place. NT
Kay1910/09/15 07:13 AM
x*Not the point. I was talking about emulating "pieces" of her game to use. Was not saying to copy her game exactly but to use pieces of her game
colleenag10/09/15 07:29 AM
x*Only 14 other HGs, may as well be first. Vanessa the strategist was great. It was Vanessa the person that sucked. It ruined all her strategy. NT
gemstone10/09/15 08:05 AM
x*Agree to disagree. I know many share your viewpoint, that because she went out 3rd she may have well as gone out 1st to JH. And in any other
colleenag10/09/15 08:23 AM
x*I was half joking. I do think she played a very very good game. Just shy from being great though. NT
Kay1910/09/15 07:49 AM
x*Respect your opinion! NT
colleenag10/09/15 07:56 AM
x*My input, how she built her social game with her allies, I think because she got their trust and how she supported each of their personal games was
tofindmypassion10/09/15 05:41 AM
x*they were just using her as a shield...who would james and meg take out if they took her out? it wasn't loyalty or trust. NT
sliver01310/09/15 10:59 AM
x*Exactly. They did not care if Vanessa got evicted other than it moved them up on the target list. NT
gemstone10/09/15 11:08 AM
x*I think it's more a mix of all of the above in different percentages at various points in the game. NT
dustysnemisis10/09/15 11:04 AM
x*if it was trust or loyalty they wouldn't be setting her up as the next to go...which is exactly what austwins were doing. NT
sliver01310/09/15 11:05 AM
x*There are ebbs and flows in loyalty and trust. Using each other as shields is expected and necessary. NT
dustysnemisis10/09/15 11:10 AM
x*imo loyalty and trust in the BB house has a certain life/currency. Vanessa built up enough capital with them so always enough in the "bank"
colleenag10/09/15 11:09 AM
x*that side just kept winning comps...she was set up to go when the other side won but they didn't. NT
sliver01310/09/15 11:13 AM
x*'Just kept winning' ... Van's strategy was all about maximizing the odds of that happening. NT
dustysnemisis10/09/15 11:19 AM
x*i don't put much stock into that...the comps are just so random and some are just plain crapshoots. NT
sliver01310/09/15 11:23 AM
x*Obviously ... and shifting levels of motivation. Many variables. It isn't all black and white. The game is played in the risky grey. NT
dustysnemisis10/09/15 11:28 AM
x*true story. NT
sliver01310/09/15 11:31 AM
x*And even though BOTB ended just when Vanessa side was about to really take over (ala Bomb Squad the others got a break but still couldn't capitaliz NT
colleenag10/09/15 11:15 AM
x*they did what they could...they didn't take out one of their own. NT
sliver01310/09/15 11:17 AM
x*Anyway you look at it Vanessa set herself up very well...her own alliance(s) kept her insulated and most were bigger threats than herself. NT
colleenag10/09/15 11:02 AM
x*any way you look at it vanessa set herself up well...not me, i try to be more objective. NT
sliver01310/09/15 11:11 AM
x*I feel I'm being objective also. NT
colleenag10/09/15 11:12 AM
x*there are ways to look at it where she wasn't set up so well...she finished 3rd. NT
sliver01310/09/15 11:19 AM
x*Right. The way I see it if she answers one question A instead of B she wins. Up to that point it took mastery to get where she was. NT
colleenag10/09/15 11:25 AM
x*It takes zero mastery to comp your way to a 50/50 chance at winning. NT
Brian36210/09/15 01:00 PM
x*Right. That's why I think all things considered equal Vanessa was the best player this season. NT
colleenag10/09/15 01:01 PM
x*Steve gave himself the same 50/50 chance, he was the best of a poor crop. NT
Brian36210/09/15 01:03 PM
x*that negates everything that happened up to that point and considering how long the game is that just isn't reasonable imo. NT
sliver01310/09/15 11:30 AM
x*I disagree. NT
colleenag10/09/15 11:34 AM
x*she had the most influence in the game and ended up in that position...something went wrong. NT
sliver01310/09/15 11:36 AM
x*Yes she lost the last comp.. That's what went wrong NT
VelvetWind10/09/15 11:40 AM
x*No. Steve completely snowed her. That is what went wrong. NT
gemstone10/09/15 11:49 AM
x*She wasn't completly snowed.. she knew something wasn't right lol NT
VelvetWind10/09/15 12:27 PM
x*While Vanessa admits she trusted Steve too much in the game she does say that when Steve won Part 2 of the final HOH he noticed she was not as
colleenag10/09/15 11:52 AM
x*Exactly this... But she knew keeping Austin would have been worse NT
VelvetWind10/09/15 12:24 PM
x*Yep. NT
colleenag10/09/15 12:26 PM
x*Completely? No. But, he definitely got her. She's the first to admit it. NT
dustysnemisis10/09/15 11:51 AM
x*Yes, looking at it realistically/objectively that is basically what happened. Either one of them had to win that last comp to go to F2. NT
colleenag10/09/15 11:47 AM
x*so she had no opportunity at any time in the game to not end up in the position to rely on a crapshoot? NT
sliver01310/09/15 11:50 AM
x*The only time she could of adjusted was when Austin went out F5; however, taking him was the bigger risk in her mind due to his showmance...
colleenag10/09/15 11:53 AM
x*if she's so good why not play more under the radar so that people don't know you're that tiger pelt? NT
sliver01310/09/15 12:07 PM
x*Clelli had a lot to do with that ... when they blew up their own game, they exposed her. NT
dustysnemisis10/09/15 12:14 PM
x*and so did audrey...the week after vanessa kept her. these are her mistakes. NT
sliver01310/09/15 12:22 PM
x*Not sure how that relates to her decision to keep Steve over Austin but that is one thing we can at least put to rest...that she was the "ringer" NT
colleenag10/09/15 12:08 PM
x*going in her skill set was above the rest she was definitely the ringer...she just failed. NT
sliver01310/09/15 12:17 PM
x*Yes, of course, when it supports the argument she's got the superior skill set, and when it doesn't she just failed. lol NT
colleenag10/09/15 12:20 PM
x*yes, going in i do believe she obviously had the superior skill set...she was the derrick this year. NT
sliver01310/09/15 12:28 PM
x*Meh, Derrick "drafted" his season and had a lot of twists work in his favor. I think Van's game way more entertaining and strategic. NT
colleenag10/09/15 12:32 PM
x*it's not hard to be more entertaining than the most boring player in the history of bb. NT
sliver01310/09/15 12:33 PM
x*Derrick was to drama what Vanessa was to game play. :P NT
Brian36210/09/15 12:58 PM
x*Nope. Derrick was to drama as Cody was to intelligence lol NT
colleenag10/09/15 01:00 PM
colleenag10/09/15 12:34 PM
x*:) man I can't stand Derrick NT
VelvetWind10/09/15 12:35 PM
x*I hear ya. I didn't like some of his moves either. But what was the worst imo was Cody taking him to F2. That was the worst for me.
colleenag10/09/15 12:38 PM
x*Do we really have to mention Derrick? lol ughh I need a nap now NT
VelvetWind10/09/15 12:30 PM
x*If you ever speak with Vanessa again please make sure she knows how important it is for Derrick to be the first to go in All Stars 2. NT
Vixter10/09/15 12:38 PM
x*Totally.. he's so sexist to begin with and smug! ughhh NT
VelvetWind10/09/15 12:45 PM
colleenag10/09/15 12:39 PM
x*lol Im not even kidding. Everyone says he is who they want to work with in the next All Stars and Im afraid she will try as well. NT
Vixter10/09/15 12:42 PM
x*Of course. No one sane is going to go straight at Derrick. Come at the King you best not miss. NT
Brian36210/09/15 12:57 PM
x*Right, most would be afraid to go after him first but Vanessa has no choice. She will be his first target. I firmly believe that. NT
Vixter10/09/15 01:00 PM
x*No way. She is just the type of player he would keep around as a meat shield. Now that it is known she can't control her emotions, she is easy out. NT
Brian36210/09/15 01:02 PM
x*I sure hope he doesn't come back.. Last time I only watched for Victoria after Donny left.. BTW did you watch Vanessa's OTB interview? NT
VelvetWind10/09/15 12:49 PM
x*Oh yes I wouldnt have missed it. I love strategy talk and wish some others had strategy to speak of. Im glad she explained why she chose Julia to
Vixter10/09/15 12:58 PM
x*Wow! Who is "everyone"? We need to tweet/fb/PM them too LOL NT
colleenag10/09/15 12:45 PM
x*James said it most recently. James may be safe though because he is male and Derrick never has to worry about James stealing his thunder. NT
Vixter10/09/15 12:52 PM
x*I really don't see one. Do you? NT
dustysnemisis10/09/15 11:52 AM
x*sure, we've seen it before...find yourself a cody and vic, play in stealth, or successfully convince them that the jury hates you. NT
sliver01310/09/15 12:06 PM
x*There's a lot of luck involved in that. Pick your poison. Winning is not the only measure of good strategy. NT
dustysnemisis10/09/15 12:11 PM
x*your entire game comes down to luck relying on a crapshoot as well...i'd pick on of the other poisons 100%. NT
sliver01310/09/15 12:16 PM
x*Yep, and have T/A and BOTB that last twice as long...that helps too. NT
colleenag10/09/15 12:07 PM
x*you're preaching to the choir on that one but there are ways. NT
sliver01310/09/15 12:10 PM
x*lol a lil common ground eh? nice NT
colleenag10/09/15 12:10 PM
x*that's not even what i'm talking about. NT
sliver01310/09/15 11:45 AM
x*I can see what you're saying. For me it was more of watching great game play and even though because of B instead of A she doesn't win the
colleenag10/09/15 11:39 AM
x*You can say that about any comp at any point. Hers just happened to be the last one. She took the wrong person to the end & didn't know it until it
gemstone10/09/15 11:53 AM
x*Yes, but this comp was for the game, not just a comp to win or lose and then campaign to stay...way different in my book. NT
colleenag10/09/15 11:55 AM
x*All comps are for the game whether win it to get a threat out or save yourself. If it was a DE comp instead, would you be complaining as much? NT
gemstone10/09/15 12:01 PM
x*LOL do I sound like I'm complaining? Just stating the facts...the answer was A not B. It's over for Vanessa. If the answers B not A it's over
colleenag10/09/15 12:03 PM
x*But that is what happens during a DE. James could easily have saved himself if he had a week to campaign. NT
gemstone10/09/15 12:16 PM
x*James had a week to campaign but he used that time to sit in a corner with Meg. He had a good early game but very disappointing end game. NT
Vixter10/09/15 12:22 PM
x*Vanessa had 3 days. She used that time to convince someone who had no power she was taking them instead of working on the one with power. NT
gemstone10/09/15 12:56 PM
x*Agreed.. Vanessa tried to cover her bases before a nom, comp or eviction NT
VelvetWind10/09/15 12:56 PM
x*could of won the pov NT
colleenag10/09/15 12:18 PM
x*Still no time to campaign is the point. NT
gemstone10/09/15 12:54 PM
x*Yes, but if he won POV he'd come off the block and wouldn't need to campaign. NT
colleenag10/09/15 12:59 PM
x*Yes ... Steve unexpectedly grew some balls ... kudos to him NT
dustysnemisis10/09/15 11:39 AM
x*it should have been expected...who wants to take someone to f2 that won 5 or 6 hoh's? NT
sliver01310/09/15 11:44 AM
x*Just as reasonable to expect someone to take the person more hated by the jury. Van admits to enjoying the rush of being a risk taker. NT
dustysnemisis10/09/15 11:48 AM
x*her strategy got her far...just not far enough. NT
sliver01310/09/15 11:51 AM
x*Still one of the best games I've ever seen played ... even with a critical misread, it almost won. NT
dustysnemisis10/09/15 11:55 AM
x*It was either take Steve or take Austin...I think she made the best choice given the tight bond Austin had with Liz. NT
colleenag10/09/15 11:56 AM
x*liz shouldn't have been there. austin might have been the better choice as he was actually cocky enough to think he could beat her in f2. NT
sliver01310/09/15 12:11 PM
x*By his reaction when he left, good chance he takes her. NT
gemstone10/09/15 12:18 PM
x*Hindsight. Here we were biting our nails to the quick that a shomance was getting so far in the game. If Steve had gone it would of been 3-1
colleenag10/09/15 12:14 PM
x*liz not going can't be disregarded because that's why austin did have to go. NT
sliver01310/09/15 12:19 PM
x*At what point? F6? NT
dustysnemisis10/09/15 12:23 PM
x*that's what i was referring to but the twins shouldn't have been let into the game period. NT
sliver01310/09/15 12:29 PM
x*not sure I follow...austin/steve OTB it was either one of them ... liz was safe and if we're talking about liz/julia otb with Julia going
colleenag10/09/15 12:22 PM
x*it's a different scenario for me because i don't think liz should have been there which isn't a stretch because that was also her choice. NT
sliver01310/09/15 12:25 PM
x*Yes, because not only is Julia the bigger goat but keeping Liztin in the house keeps a bigger target available still. NT
colleenag10/09/15 12:30 PM
x*it might not have mattered either way...imo her game needed to be corrected way back. NT
sliver01310/09/15 12:32 PM
x*OK, I'll bite. Where do ya think she went wrong? NT
colleenag10/09/15 12:33 PM
x*making dark moon was the big one and once it was made it shouldn't have been broken. her integrity, straight-shooter, solo dolo game over after. NT
sliver01310/09/15 12:48 PM
x*Are you basically referring to when Van renoms Jason instead of Austin? NT
colleenag10/09/15 12:52 PM
x*Dark Moon? That was never real for most involved. NT
dustysnemisis10/09/15 12:50 PM
x*yes, it was pointless. all it did was hurt her rep. NT
sliver01310/09/15 12:52 PM
x*Big time. Even within her own alliance & they never forgot NT
gemstone10/09/15 01:04 PM
x*Not pointless ... Liz's miracle win was a huge setback. NT
dustysnemisis10/09/15 01:03 PM
x*I agree. I doubt she would have made F3 without evicting Austin. NT
dustysnemisis10/09/15 11:59 AM
x*Vanessa even said he made a great move lol NT
VelvetWind10/09/15 11:43 AM
x*Very good point... also I think she has maintained that although her tears were real she acknowledged that by being vulnerable her bonds with
colleenag10/09/15 06:05 AM
x*At 1:35:00 and she's just getting fired up: "The person I felt would do that best was Becky, and here's why." Oh how I miss V's strategy sessions! NT
TruthCannon10/09/15 01:37 AM
x*She's great and she even mentioned all her flaws NT
VelvetWind10/09/15 11:32 AM
x*Yes ... Van is really quite self-deprecating. NT
dustysnemisis10/09/15 11:36 AM
x*Exactly this... she's is very humble NT
VelvetWind10/09/15 11:38 AM
x*I haven't finished it yet. Does she ever pause to take a drink of water? NT
banner_boy10/09/15 01:50 AM
x*Nope! But McCrae has taken more sips of beer than words spoken over the last hour. NT
TruthCannon10/09/15 02:08 AM
x*Too bad she's not in government; she could do an awesome filibuster. NT
banner_boy10/09/15 02:21 AM
x*Do you plan on posting a review of her interview? NT
Corndogger10/09/15 12:21 AM
x*see my post above for mini breakdown one hour into interview... NT
colleenag10/09/15 05:01 AM
x*Probably not, was only half listening to parts. NT
banner_boy10/09/15 02:24 AM
*Becky is so over the top with the Jecky stuff know that she knows jmac is popular. It's kind of transparent. NT
Bleuag598 39   10/08/15 09:32 PM
x*I'll judge was she posts pictures of them making out. NT
1122810/09/15 05:55 AM
x*she went from hating/being rude to Steve (in house)to adoring him after he said he was going after the ppl rude to him...she just might be clueless NT
mebe10/09/15 01:20 AM
x*You must not have watched the feeds late at night the last few weeks Becky was in the house. She and Steve talked a lot--she liked him. Reference
Corndogger10/09/15 10:53 AM
x*She was one of the few who wasn't rude to Steve. NT
1122810/09/15 05:55 AM
x*yeah she's a stupid bitch. NT
dopemelody10/08/15 10:29 PM
x*Nooooo. She isn't. NT
SockThief10/09/15 11:39 AM
x*Well that escalated quickly. NT
eureca10/08/15 10:42 PM
x*lol I don't like her but yikes NT
VelvetWind10/08/15 10:31 PM
x*its really annoying in the house she told anyone that would listen how she would never be with someone like him "in a million" years NT
pinkydaze10/08/15 10:26 PM
x*They don't always tell the truth in the house NT
FurnitureAlliance10/09/15 03:20 AM
x*I don't remember when it was said but I do remember this being said. NT
starr4all10/09/15 03:19 AM
x*When did she say that? NT
Corndogger10/08/15 10:27 PM
x*She didn't even mention him as a person that she would hang out with after the show in her eviction interview. She said goblins and Steve lol. NT
Bleuag10/08/15 10:36 PM
x*Probably didn't mention him for safety reasons. NT
Corndogger10/08/15 10:46 PM
x*So she bought a plane ticket and is spending however many days in Scranton just to keep up appearances? That's dedication! NT
XREJX110/08/15 09:58 PM
x*She's going to see Meg, but Scranton is a few hours away. NT
Bleuag10/08/15 10:00 PM
x*I can't wait to see the pictures from their visit NT
krazy110/08/15 09:52 PM
x*Don't worry she will post them: "the guy I said could never win comps for me, and was totally useless." NT
Bleuag10/08/15 09:54 PM
x*you do realize that was her playing her OWN game. Jon said himself HE pushed her away and told her to act like they were not close. NT
Trina10/08/15 10:15 PM
x*I think she was genuinely was stuck up and thought Jackie was a better option NT
Bleuag10/08/15 10:17 PM
x*I think it was both, but after the show ended she realised how much John was playing the game and gained a new appreciation for him. NT
nonemoreblack10/08/15 10:26 PM
x*What did she do? NT
thanme10/08/15 09:36 PM
x*She always tweets about them and uses that hashtag and she's going to PA today. NT
Bleuag10/08/15 09:37 PM
x*She doesn't tweet about him that much. It is possible that she genuinely likes him and it has nothing to do with JMac being a fan favorite. NT
thanme10/08/15 09:41 PM
x*He doesn't respond to her. Yet he responded to Steve, Austin and Vanessa... NT
Bleuag10/08/15 09:48 PM
x*JMac's Twitter is not that good of indicator of his relationships with the other houseguests. He seems to like Becky in interviews. NT
thanme10/08/15 09:51 PM
x*And? The strength of a person's relationship w/ someone isn't based on how much they respond to them on twitter. lol NT
nonemoreblack10/08/15 09:50 PM
x*Yeah I know, but he's clearly not interested in making anything public with her. She on the other hand wants to ride the Jecky train. NT
Bleuag10/08/15 09:52 PM
x*I see. I don't see any harm in it b/c regardless of what people are assuming I really think they are only friends at this point. And I think Becky
nonemoreblack10/08/15 10:13 PM
x*And I really didn't mean to make a train reference, it was just the best metaphor NT
Bleuag10/08/15 09:53 PM
x*lol but you still went there :D NT
colleenag10/09/15 02:42 AM
x*lol NT
VelvetWind10/08/15 09:57 PM
x*But he doesn't have a headboard!! NT
VelvetWind10/08/15 09:45 PM
x*When I said she genuinely likes him, I meant as a friend. Lmao. NT
thanme10/08/15 09:48 PM
x*Oh!!! hahaha NT
VelvetWind10/08/15 09:52 PM
x*yep.. It's transparent NT
VelvetWind10/08/15 09:40 PM
x*she does it with Jackie too, it's fun. sheesh. People act like cause they have the hots for Jon everyone else should too and if they don't they're
Trina10/08/15 10:17 PM
x*I'm sure neither velvet wind nor I have the hots for john, or think everyone is using him. But thanks for the psychoanalysis. NT
Bleuag10/08/15 10:26 PM
x*Why do you think Becky's using him? If Johnny Mac didn't like her he wouldn't have invited her to spend time with him. NT
Corndogger10/08/15 10:56 PM
*Link to the full Mode Magazine article on the twins with lots of modeling pics. They model for Deco Models, Miami.
Corndogger449 17   10/08/15 08:57 PM
x*In every picture my eyes go straight to Julia she is more photogenic and "model like" imo NT
XoXoXoX10/09/15 12:56 AM
x*I agree. I don't think Liz has a future in modeling at all. She conveys little in her pics compared to Julia. Julia should strike out on her own. NT
SockThief10/09/15 12:00 PM
x*The twins look like the girl in the painting, Girl with a Pearl Earring by Vermeer>>>
Sirius10/08/15 11:39 PM
x*that is sooo true NT
Mishanb10/08/15 11:55 PM
x*Man that is a poorly written article. Hamster watch probably has a better version. And deco models is totally a scam. NT
Bleuag10/08/15 09:37 PM
x*They have no public complaints against them. Some probably don't know how things work and call it a scam.
Corndogger10/08/15 09:59 PM
x*You pay for a portfolio/pictures, blah blah. If you are a model, the agency invests in you. Kate Moss never paid $750 for a portfolio. NT
Bleuag10/08/15 10:02 PM
x*Because one person made that claim doesn't make it true. Where are the public complaints if they are so bad? NT
Corndogger10/08/15 10:25 PM
x*It's not necessarily a "scam", but it sounds like it doesn't work like a normal modeling agency. Fork over money and they produce stuff for u NT
banner_boy10/08/15 10:29 PM
x*as trya says a model should never have to pay for a portfolio NT
Mishanb10/08/15 11:58 PM
x*That could be coming from people they rejected. Others have said they didn't pay, get paid and get lots of work. I'm sure every agency gets bashed. NT
Corndogger10/08/15 10:54 PM
x*No lol. real models are not attached to that agency. Can you find any work they actually did that aren't just portraits? NT
Bleuag10/08/15 10:57 PM
x*I don't think it would matter what evidence I presented to you. I also don't think you know what a portrait is. NT
Corndogger10/08/15 11:15 PM
x*Yeah, and the end up booking you for calendars and as Budweiser girls. Some can get commercials. NT
Bleuag10/08/15 10:34 PM
x*I don't know who this one person is. I had friends in high school (in Miami) who fell for these scams with Deco and several other places. NT
Bleuag10/08/15 10:28 PM
x*the twins = Rebecca Black and her Friday. lol. NT
banner_boy10/08/15 10:19 PM
x*LOL, I thought the same thing. NT
Brian36210/08/15 09:40 PM
*Vanessa's interview is up NT
VelvetWind426 27   10/08/15 08:36 PM
x*I love this interview NT
VelvetWind10/08/15 10:18 PM
x*HAHA. Vanessa says that Audrey was "playing too hard." NT
banner_boy10/08/15 09:22 PM
x*Too hard, too early ... common BB error NT
dustysnemisis10/08/15 11:51 PM
x*Well, even Audrey says that. lol NT
stargazerlilly10/08/15 09:49 PM
x*yeah, but it's just funny to hear that phrase come out of her mouth with no awareness really of how same phrase made her flip out. NT
banner_boy10/08/15 10:06 PM
x*It's not in the house or the game now though. It's an interview. NT
stargazerlilly10/08/15 11:00 PM
x*Vanessa has always been a hypocrite. And you're right, no self-awareness. NT
miss88010/08/15 10:39 PM
x*I just watched her Interview with OTB.. And she was was very humble. Her explanations for things she did was great. She knew she didn't play a
VelvetWind10/08/15 11:12 PM
x*One of the main reasons I just can't stomach this looney tune. She can dish it out but certainly can not take it. So full of herself! NT
CindiCindi10/08/15 10:56 PM
x*Exactly! NT
miss88010/09/15 12:21 AM
x*Oh she can take it that's for sure.. Love her! NT
VelvetWind10/08/15 11:10 PM
x*Audrey played way harder than Vanessa- and worse, there was no logic to her game. Whatever you say about Vanessa, her moves always had purpose. NT
kmjm10/08/15 10:46 PM
x*Exactly.. And Audrey admits it.. I'm sure they have even talked about it NT
VelvetWind10/08/15 10:53 PM
x*They really like each other.. kind of cool NT
VelvetWind10/08/15 09:55 PM
x*Mel reached out to Audrey right away. I'm glad they are all getting together later this month. NT
stargazerlilly10/08/15 10:01 PM
x*me too! NT
VelvetWind10/08/15 10:01 PM
x*yes too hard too fast :) lol NT
VelvetWind10/08/15 09:34 PM
x*I can see why it is 2 hours. She is a talker. So far McRae and Spencer have trouble getting in questions... lol NT
dillybean10/08/15 09:12 PM
x*She's the type on person that during a phone call you can set the receiver down while you make dinner, use the restroom, etc. and then return NT
banner_boy10/08/15 09:21 PM
x*Hahaha! Well that wouldnt be any fun!! NT
VelvetWind10/08/15 09:22 PM
x*They are loving it NT
VelvetWind10/08/15 09:20 PM
x*Is McCrae on uppers? NT
banner_boy10/08/15 09:12 PM
x*Can't get enough of her :) She's fun! NT
VelvetWind10/08/15 08:54 PM
x*link inside
VelvetWind10/08/15 08:39 PM
x*Now it wont load NT
VelvetWind10/08/15 08:37 PM
x*Loads for me. NT
Corndogger10/08/15 08:40 PM
x*I got it working thanks NT
VelvetWind10/08/15 08:42 PM
*Jury house outtakes
PSister429 7   10/08/15 08:15 PM
x*James was funny--had to bleep him NT
FurnitureAlliance10/09/15 03:18 AM
x*I liked Shelli "Ya man we dominated, we won by that one point, ya we really pulled that win out, WE WON!" :) NT
colleenag10/09/15 02:51 AM
x*"When i see food imma guess food" was the best part. NT
ringo910/08/15 08:36 PM
x*:) Loved it. That was soooo Julia NT
PSister10/08/15 08:45 PM
x*They need to release more jury house with footage with Juj. Girl is hilarious...and a model! NT
Corndogger10/08/15 08:25 PM
x*why did they wait several weeks to release this? I want some DR outtakes. NT
banner_boy10/08/15 08:20 PM
x*That'll never happen. NT
Corndogger10/08/15 08:32 PM
*I wish the hit men would go away. They are overrated players. NT
sommie789161 14   10/08/15 07:25 PM
x*Still trying to be relevant. Derrick as a winner is understandable but "Hitmen" LOLOL Cody still being played by Derrick. NT
colleenag10/09/15 02:55 AM
x*Now that was a great alliance. One of the best. NT
Brian36210/08/15 09:29 PM
x*thanks for bringing them up again!! I like the hitmen - now we have a thread to talk about them in! So thank you!! ;) NT
BB_Fan_JJ_Dan10/08/15 09:17 PM
x*i think they would not exist so tight if cody did take victoria.... i feel the bond grew stronger due to derrick winning as crazy as it sounds NT
uvp10/08/15 08:20 PM
x*They pretty much have gone away, haven't they? NT
SockThief10/08/15 08:08 PM
x*I can't stand them. Both those guys are arrogant pricks NT
krazy110/08/15 07:37 PM
x*Nope they aren't. NT
bigbrotherfan710/08/15 10:35 PM
x*Hey, now. NT
LillyNomad10/08/15 08:19 PM
x*Cody is acting like he likes Julia but he's just the new James Rhine NT
Bbfan601910/08/15 07:38 PM
x*I think Cody goes both ways. NT
sommie78910/08/15 07:50 PM
x*The Nolans are bottom of the barrel choices. At least go for Jackie or Shelli NT
krazy110/08/15 07:49 PM
x*they too much woman for him NT
Mishanb10/08/15 07:58 PM
x*They are mentally 7th graders NT
krazy110/08/15 08:05 PM
x*Julia is prettier and more likeable than her sister. NT
sommie78910/08/15 07:51 PM
*I wonder who is going to be the most famous out of this bunch. NT
sommie789217 12   10/08/15 07:21 PM
x*Famous famous, or BB famous? NT
miss88010/08/15 08:42 PM
x*Good question miss880. I assume famous/famous. NT
Theory10/08/15 11:17 PM
x*Only Vanessa, IMO. The fame she had going in was limited to poker world. BB also small world. If she had a partner to handle creative stuff, she
SockThief10/08/15 08:02 PM
x*I say excluding Vanessa I think Jason he has talent NT
Bbfan601910/08/15 07:42 PM
x*So much talent that he works in a grocery store and lives in his moms basement. He's going to be HUGE! NT
setman200010/08/15 07:50 PM
x*so people shouldn't dream or try to make their lives better? They should just know their place? How many actors, business people ect started out
Trina10/08/15 10:21 PM
x*He's doing something for Vanessa.. He's young and very talented.. I think he will do good things. I have faith that he will grow up soon NT
VelvetWind10/08/15 07:59 PM
x*Jim Carrey was broke before he was famous. NT
sommie78910/08/15 07:52 PM
x*If we must give up on brunch, I would say, James. NT
Theory10/08/15 07:33 PM
x*No fair, sommie. You left us hanging with our delicious breakfast foods. NT
Theory10/08/15 07:32 PM
x*Perhaps the bacon, but my money is on the eggs. NT
Theory10/08/15 07:23 PM
x*Don't underestimate the hash browns. They could be a dark horse NT
krazy110/08/15 07:29 PM
*Is there a handy list of all new CBS shows that have had tie-ins in BB episodes? (Scorpion, LiP,etc). Just wondering which have had most success. NT
banner_boy142 11   10/08/15 07:15 PM
x*MOM? (came out shortly after or premiered during Season #15) a nod to Mom Squad maybe? NT
colleenag10/09/15 03:00 AM
x*Isn't NFL Thursday Night Football technically new? If so, it might be the most successful. NT
Corndogger10/08/15 11:27 PM
sommie78910/08/15 08:36 PM
x*Yes, good one. NT
colleenag10/09/15 03:01 AM
x*No idea of there's such a list or what was most successful. What was the name of the show Jeremy Piven was on when he appeared in BB13? NT
Corndogger10/08/15 08:19 PM
x*He pushed that crappy movie "The Goods" on BB11 but I don't know about BB13. NT
Brian36210/08/15 09:53 PM
x*That was probably it. I remember Jeff talking about him and assumed it was BB13 b/c I can't recall BB12 doing any show tie-ins. NT
Corndogger10/08/15 11:26 PM
x*BB12 had the tie-in with another movie, "The Other Guys". NT
Brian36210/09/15 12:12 AM
x*Do you remember if they watched that in the backyard? NT
Corndogger10/09/15 12:47 AM
x*No it was in one of the bedrooms, Probably HOH room but not 100% about that. The rest of the house sat outside by the pool. NT
Brian36210/09/15 01:23 AM
x*Season 2 of Unforgettable in BB15. NT
banner_boy10/08/15 07:17 PM
*McCrae tweet: It'll be up tonight! I'm guessing by 9CST. We had some tech issues. NT
HES54 3   10/08/15 06:17 PM
x*Yay NT
VelvetWind10/08/15 06:37 PM
x*McCrae always has tech issues. NT
sommie78910/08/15 06:22 PM
x*Because he's a stoner pizza boy still living with his parents. NT
setman200010/08/15 07:52 PM
*Have the rest of ED 's interviews with the BB17 cast been cancelled, I believe Vanessa was supposed to be on tonight. NT
bbcanDDW200 13   10/08/15 05:08 PM
x*I guess then that the Audrey interview ED did slipped through CBS control. I also read that Day did an interview with him but I didn't watch it. NT
colleenag10/09/15 03:04 AM
x*I put in a call to BB and got it shut down NT
AwfuLeeHandsome10/08/15 06:56 PM
x*not sure what i missed -how can CBS ban him from interviewing them, and why did they want to do so? NT
HES10/08/15 06:04 PM
x*Their contract with CBS allows production to prevent anything they don't want done NT
frustratedposter10/08/15 06:09 PM
x*but do you know the reason? just curious NT
HES10/08/15 06:10 PM
x*I assume because ED talks crap about production regularly and they can't control his content. NT
eureca10/08/15 06:51 PM
x*As mentioned before, I think CBS is upset because Dick charges for a subscription to his broadcast season. The guests are under contract to CBS
kaper10/08/15 07:49 PM
x*Have they prevented ED from doing interviews on his show in the past? If not, something else is going on here. NT
dustysnemisis10/08/15 08:09 PM
x*Nope he has been charging for a few years now and interviewing new HG's. Don't these younow BB17 interviewers make money off of tips? NT
eureca10/08/15 08:25 PM
x*Tips are voluntary...a subscription is required.There may be other reasons too, though. Dick is very vocal about his opinions about matters such as
kaper10/09/15 10:42 AM
x*ED also tweeted that many of these "free interviewers" do advertising so they do indirectly profit while not charging a subscription. NT
colleenag10/09/15 10:46 AM
x*That makes more sense than anything else, to me. NT
SockThief10/08/15 08:04 PM
x*No, not really. I know why I"D prevent it :) NT
frustratedposter10/08/15 06:11 PM
*I like Nicole & Hayden but all they do is post sponsored ads on social media like 90% of the time. Very annoying. Unfollowed. NT
BB_Fan_JJ_Dan130 7   10/08/15 04:44 PM
x*I don't know about Hayden but I don't think those are sponsored ads Nic is tweeting. It's stuff she's really excited about & wants to share. She also
Corndogger10/08/15 08:31 PM
x*I never liked them, they have no personality. NT
sommie78910/08/15 06:04 PM
x*ita milk commercial NT
XoXoXoX10/09/15 12:57 AM
x*I follow both on twitter and never have seen a single ad by either. NT
ringo910/08/15 05:50 PM
x*OK I checked and see what could be 3 ads since May 2 on Nicole's twitter. On Instagram only pics of her(and Hayden). NT
ringo910/08/15 06:02 PM
x*I counted 4 since the beginning of September. NT
BB_Fan_JJ_Dan10/08/15 07:38 PM
x*I wonder how much those people with a lot of followers get paid for posting those ads like the teeth whitener one? NT
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