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*For those emphasizing Sarah's point about Brad being an athlete,
SpaceEVA184 9   05/25/17 04:00 PM
x*Brad should have done a better job countering with the fact that he won puzzles. Anybody could have won them. NT
PVRlover05/25/17 04:37 PM
x*That was the beauty of it. Not all the jury were at all the competitions so they couldn't process that. So while what Sarah painted wasn't quite
trifecta05/25/17 04:49 PM
x*I thought that was her point and she made it. She was saying that Brad excelled at what he was an expert at and she did the same so don't hold her
trifecta05/25/17 04:15 PM
x*It didn't come across that way to me as there wasn't an acknowledgement of that helping Sarah excel. I felt like it was discrediting Brad more so NT
SpaceEVA05/25/17 04:18 PM
x*No, when Michaela finally stopped Brad from interrupting Sarah, she explained that. He used what he's been groomed at to advance his game
trifecta05/25/17 04:21 PM
x*So it wasn't to discredit Brad, it was to temper the slobber pouring out of Debbie and Ozzy's mouth about how great it was that Brad won all those
trifecta05/25/17 04:24 PM
x*Don't forget the Zeke and Michaela slobber for Sarah. NT
JAF05/25/17 04:54 PM
x*I don't know. I might have to watch it again to see if i can see that because it's not how it came across the first time i watched.
SpaceEVA05/25/17 04:28 PM
x*Brad felt the need to counter because he interrupted her and didn't let her finish her point. That's when Michaela stepped in and said "let her
trifecta05/25/17 04:44 PM
*Was Brad's porn mustache fake? I just watched Andrea's red carpet interview with him and it was gone. Dalton said one minute it was there and the
Corndogger61 0   05/25/17 03:46 PM
*What would have happened last night at F6 if Tai hadn't previously played a HII to save Sierra but instead played it at F6 to save Cirie?
Blockhead48 3   05/25/17 03:41 PM
x*Not possible. Once he played the Mana idol for Sierra, then another idol was hidden at Mana. If he doesn't play the idol for Sierra, then
J4RCW05/25/17 03:54 PM
x*I don't think they ever had 4 idols in the game. I think when he used the idol on Sierra it returned to the game and he got it again. No? NT
WillettDrizzle05/25/17 03:53 PM
x*No idea but I can see them saying they would then just revert to the votes and they would decide who goes home. NT
Corndogger05/25/17 03:48 PM
*Why didn't Sarah vote for Troyzan at F4? Andrea asked Sarah this in her red carpet interview. Sarah said when she, Troyzan and Brad went on the
Corndogger102 0   05/25/17 03:29 PM
*Does anybody else find Jeff Varner as the most insincere self-absorbed jerk ever on Survivor? I mean last night, and since his outing of Zeke, he
trifecta163 2   05/25/17 02:49 PM
x*Agreed. Varner is a pathetic loser. NT
BigGirlPanties05/25/17 04:10 PM
x*his performance last night was really bad. And Varner has attacked previous Survivors - said Spencer had autism, insulted Tasha numerous times - so
nicholaspuppy05/25/17 03:10 PM
*"Two hipsters and a cattle rancher walk into an L.A. bar." Pic of Zeke, Aubz and JT. Bet you didn't think you'd see that combo!
Corndogger117 0   05/25/17 02:34 PM
*"So proud to be the object of her showmance affection." Who said it and who is it about? Tweet with answer and hot pic inside!
Corndogger170 0   05/25/17 02:00 PM
*i really feel i watched a different season of survivor i didn't see sarah as this huge game player that manipulated as much of the game
Belle135 5   05/25/17 01:56 PM
x*I thought they were about equal, just in different ways. I agree that while Sarah orchestrated a few good moves, it wasn't like she was
JAF05/25/17 02:39 PM
x*I did. & what she did masterfully was not make a huge fuss about who she really wanted needed to go each week. That is what I think bit Andrea NT
PVRlover05/25/17 02:30 PM
x*I don't see how Brad and Sierra ran the game more when they lost control of the majority after the Debbie vote. They only ran two boots in
J4RCW05/25/17 02:29 PM
x*You must have been a Culpepper fan then :P NT
MegsMom31605/25/17 02:02 PM
x*It seems like they felt that Sierra was running it more than Brad was, and Sarah got Sierra out so... NT
FurnitureAlliance05/25/17 02:01 PM
*"Survivor 34 winner Sarah Lacina played like a criminal and earned that prize money." Hannah does a great analysis of Y Sarah won in her article. >
Corndogger46 1   05/25/17 01:56 PM
x*Maybe Zeke needs to wear Zeke's jacket. NT
trifecta05/25/17 02:41 PM
*Final voting
Kevinmac12499 16   05/25/17 12:47 PM
x*It helped it was veterans playing. 1st time players would have been more emotional and unable to separate the game play NT
Bellamom05/25/17 01:19 PM
x*Or the opposite. Returning players have a bigger tendency to play favorites. There was even a point in the reunion last night where one player
JAF05/25/17 01:29 PM
x*Tony kept calling Sarah NT
FurnitureAlliance05/25/17 01:40 PM
x*Sarah is the one that mentioned that regarding Tony calling her NT
Bellamom05/25/17 01:38 PM
x*Ah yes, that was it. Thanks. For all we know, such preformed friendships had as much to do with some of the votes as anything did. NT
JAF05/25/17 01:44 PM
x*She said he was giving her advice and I thought it was cool that she gave him a lot of credit for her game too NT
FurnitureAlliance05/25/17 01:56 PM
x*i wish tony had done better NT
Belle05/25/17 01:57 PM
x*Yeah that was a bummer NT
FurnitureAlliance05/25/17 02:06 PM
x*She was able to explain her actions and show she was playing the game and not being personal I think. NT
FurnitureAlliance05/25/17 01:15 PM
x*I think most players can reconcile being backstabbed as part of the game if they have one inkling of like for the person that did it to them.
trifecta05/25/17 01:14 PM
x*Loved your last 6 words lol damn sore losers. NT
MegsMom31605/25/17 01:16 PM
x*Or perhaps the other 7 were the "sore losers" for being bitter against Brad. It cuts both ways. Actually I don't really see this as a bitter jury
JAF05/25/17 01:23 PM
x*Well, maybe, but I fail to see it because in my opinion, Sarah vs Brad in Survivor game play was as lopsided as they come. Strategic, blindsided
trifecta05/25/17 01:30 PM
x*You're missing the key point that Sarah connected with most of these people and Brad didn't. Michaela demonstrated that beautifully at FTC. NT
Corndogger05/25/17 01:29 PM
x*Lots of ways to look at it. Some might call that bitter jury then if they held their personal feelings against
JAF05/25/17 01:41 PM
x*Also they were for Brad, so naturally they tried to find things wrong with Sarah's game. NT
FurnitureAlliance05/25/17 01:55 PM
*Will someone with access to Sarah, ask her the most important question of the season? I'm pretty sure the answer is "NO!!!!". The question is
trifecta361 8   05/25/17 12:40 PM
x*I doubt it NT
FurnitureAlliance05/25/17 02:03 PM
x*Ask her on Twitter. She's been answering questions all season. Just don't be mean to her when you ask. NT
Corndogger05/25/17 01:31 PM
x*Why would I be mean toward her, she's one of my all time favorites now. NT
trifecta05/25/17 01:38 PM
x*I was just giving advice. A lot of people this season have been real jerks toward her. NT
Corndogger05/25/17 01:54 PM
x*Yep, I get it. Hopefully and especially in her line of work she knows that out of millions of people, there are going to be a few nutbags that
trifecta05/25/17 02:02 PM
x*She's already said she's unlikely to do an AMA on Reddit because of how some fans act. Survivor "fans" on social media are quickly becoming just
Corndogger05/25/17 02:07 PM
x*It's so incredibly rude NT
FurnitureAlliance05/25/17 02:11 PM
x*People with no life NT
FurnitureAlliance05/25/17 02:05 PM
*How can anyone think
Blockhead418 12   05/25/17 11:33 AM
x*Is this how Monica dresses him? NT
FurnitureAlliance05/25/17 02:09 PM
x*lol ikr? NT
FurnitureAlliance05/25/17 02:08 PM
x*Reminds me of Kevin Costner (I think) movie where he went ape ***** one day and started destroying things while wearing a tie. NT
all8up05/25/17 01:45 PM
x*I would never hire an attorney looking like that. NT
robin005/25/17 12:26 PM
x*lol i know i thought he was fairly attractive on the island.....last night not so much NT
Belle05/25/17 11:39 AM
x*I did too, but this looked like clothes from that 70's ,show. Mustache looked like sad caterpillar. NT
klmom305/25/17 02:28 PM
x*He looked like a door to door vacuum cleaner salesman lol NT
MegsMom31605/25/17 11:40 AM
x*You would think his wife would tell him he looks ridiculous. NT
Blockhead05/25/17 11:49 AM
x*Maybe his wife finds 1960 porn style hot? lol NT
MegsMom31605/25/17 11:52 AM
x*oh is that the style? i wouldn't know NT
Belle05/25/17 11:53 AM
x*Right, you wouldn't *blink blink* NT
FurlessBat05/25/17 11:58 AM
x*men usually don't listen to their wives :/ NT
Belle05/25/17 11:51 AM
*Sarah's legacy advantage - it seems like something that should have been announced before voting took place. It wasn't a regular HII as it could
Blockhead251 11   05/25/17 11:10 AM
x*The legacy advantage is the the same as an immunity idol so it makes sense that it follows the same rules as a regular idol on how it is played NT
RealityCK05/25/17 12:22 PM
x*I've always hated the gimmicky "surprise" powers that the players of the game don't know the rules to before the game starts. NT
JAF05/25/17 11:34 AM
x*You think they should be told all powers & how many idols are in the game? NT
PVRlover05/25/17 12:39 PM
x*Yes. Not how many are found, but how many will be available. And if there's anything "special" tell them the 1st episode what it is, what the rules
JAF05/25/17 01:10 PM
x*me too jeff appeared to be soooo pleased that the special powers made the one tribe counsel so interesting with so many hidden idols etc but i hate
Belle05/25/17 11:40 AM
x*Not really unfair because they all have the chance of finding idols and advantages or winning immunity. NT
BBO05/25/17 12:03 PM
x*He should have at least explained it better, that even if they had bothered to play it out, Cirie would have gone home on a rock draw.
JAF05/25/17 11:46 AM
x*hmm, didn't Ken have to play his before the vote last season? NT
nicholaspuppy05/25/17 11:12 AM
x*No, I believe it was after NT
FurlessBat05/25/17 11:18 AM
x*Thanks for answering, Furless. It is much appreciated. NT
Blockhead05/25/17 11:19 AM
x*I don't recall. I'm sure Furless could find out for us. NT
Blockhead05/25/17 11:14 AM
*So were the bootlists available for this season correct? NT
nicholaspuppy36 4   05/25/17 10:39 AM
x*you can take a look at them now. There is nothing about next season yet NT
PVRlover05/25/17 10:45 AM
x*thanks - that was my worry. NT
nicholaspuppy05/25/17 10:47 AM
x*the F3 were accurate. The boot list was very close. It had Sierra being last to go to jury NT
PVRlover05/25/17 10:44 AM
x*seems like Hali, Aubry and Sierra were the biggest mixups but overall pretty accurate. NT
nicholaspuppy05/25/17 10:48 AM
*Somewhat lost by the time the finale finished playing out was how incredibly stupid Tai was for wasting an idol on Aubry instead of just
JAF364 7   05/25/17 10:33 AM
x*Just like Culpepper had made an emotional decision not to take Tai to final 3, I think Tai saving Aubry was an emotional response to stick it to
trifecta05/25/17 11:06 AM
x*The first was a miscalculation, to be sure. But it was still a calculation of an unknown (how the jury would vote). OTOH Tai's idol's were a known
JAF05/25/17 11:42 AM
x*he had upset aubry right? i agree it was emotional maybe he was trying to prove himself trustworthy? NT
Belle05/25/17 11:43 AM
x*That and I think he wanted an ally to stand up to Brad. That's why he went crying to Aubz. I also think he was hoping that if she or himself won
Corndogger05/25/17 01:43 PM
x*Could be but when you're guaranteed F4, just one immunity from the F3, there isn't much to gain. And frankly, Tai and "trustworthy" were never gonna
JAF05/25/17 11:54 AM
x*Yep, I thought the same thing. He still ended up f4 either way, but I seriously cast doubt on his judgment. NT
robin005/25/17 10:46 AM
x*I wish he had saved it so Cirie possibly would have lasted one more tribal! I was sad to see her go but I saw that playing out that way last week. NT
MegsMom31605/25/17 10:36 AM
*Since next season's theme is Heroes vs Healers vs Hustlers does that mean Survivor Dan will be back? He called himself a hero after his season.
Blockhead34 2   05/25/17 09:59 AM
x*All new players next season. Thankfully. NT
JAF05/25/17 10:26 AM
x*Only if they make a Horrendous category. NT
robin005/25/17 10:13 AM
*Over the course of 34 seasons, the girls have figured out that they can't ride the coat tails of the guys or they are called goats. They have learned
PVRlover205 5   05/25/17 09:53 AM
x*The irony is that the girls controlled this season almost from the very start, yet we were just one fatal choice away from having an all-male F3.
JAF05/25/17 10:43 AM
x*that is true. Would have played out much differently too if they had gotten Brad out when they had the chance NT
PVRlover05/25/17 10:48 AM
x*I also think Brad failed to take into account the gender makeup of the jury when deciding to boot Tai instead of Sarah. As much as we like to think
JAF05/25/17 11:03 AM
x*true i don't think brad was thinking. for some reason tai really seemed to make him mad and IMO that is all he thought about NT
Belle05/25/17 11:41 AM
x*There are bery few showmances on Survivor. NT
robin005/25/17 09:58 AM
*Brad would have won if he would have taken Tai. But he cut him instead of Saarah because it was all about a personal vendetta. He let his emotions
robin0204 5   05/25/17 09:45 AM
x*I'm wondering if Brad was absolutely blind til the very end about Sarah being a strategist. He seemed to blame Tai every time the vote didn't go
PVRlover05/25/17 10:01 AM
x*maybe brad did underestimate sarah but i think brad had seen tia wishy washy ways for himself so he was blinded by any other explanation NT
Belle05/25/17 11:57 AM
x*I think that was more because Tai proved to be a notoriously fickle flip-flopper that you just couldn't trust. NT
JAF05/25/17 10:29 AM
x*Brad definitely underestimated Sarah because of her gender. NT
robin005/25/17 10:12 AM
x*I agree. He voted out Tai for personal reasons. NT
BlondeMoment05/25/17 09:49 AM
*why do they have a final 3 there is always someone that gets nothing. just make it final 2 already NT
Belle77 5   05/25/17 09:10 AM
x*I disagree. Look at BBCan 5. We knew whoever won that final HOH was taking the goat & winning. F3 makes for more suspense. NT
PVRlover05/25/17 11:05 AM
x*Jeff thinks it makes the final 3 more exciting. NT
nicholaspuppy05/25/17 09:27 AM
x*1) Keep the players guessing if it is F2 or F3, 2) (I think this is the main reason) they want a tie vote so they can have the drama of a one person
Blockhead05/25/17 09:21 AM
x*Because (in part) they WANT to take a pawn to the end. All part of "The Weakest Link" strategy -- knocking out as many good players
JAF05/25/17 09:18 AM
x*Just realized I read the question wrong. Oh well, it's still a good answer... just to a different question. ;-) NT
JAF05/25/17 09:25 AM
*As Oszy wen ton about Brad's challenge prowess, Sarah astutely pointed out that Brad was a professional athlete. When Sarah was complimented on her
bunnielebowski642 23   05/25/17 09:04 AM
x*Which shows Ozzy is still a crappy player too, if either (him or Brad) had a good social game they wouldn't NEED to win II's to advance. NT
MegsMom31605/25/17 09:31 AM
x*I agree. Lets hope this is the last we see of Ozzy. NT
PVRlover05/25/17 09:45 AM
x*Let's hope it's the last we see of ALL of these players. 2+ times on Survivor is enough (more than enough in many cases). NT
JAF05/25/17 09:49 AM
x*i bet sandra returns lol just cuz she annoys me so much NT
Belle05/25/17 11:53 AM
x*lol. You and me both. NT
JAF05/25/17 11:55 AM
x*Ugh, I hope not lol I would love to see Cirie a time or two more but something tells me that she won't be back after her tribute. NT
MegsMom31605/25/17 11:53 AM
x*I agree with you. Ozzie still doesn't get that it's not enough to be physically the best competitor NT
Pixie505/25/17 09:37 AM
x*The game has also gotten a lot softer and moved away from the strengths of the Ozzy's, Ruperts, and Richard Hatch's. "Surviving" isn't even
JAF05/25/17 10:52 AM
x*Not to mention the not-so-subtle reminder that professional football player = rich. NT
JAF05/25/17 09:23 AM
x*great thought :) guess he couldn't think on his feet as quickly as she did NT
Belle05/25/17 09:06 AM
x*she didn't really let him speak to answer the question she just kept talking over him. But I mean he said all he can say, I'm 47 years old now, who
krh503805/25/17 09:36 AM
x*Not sure what he could have said to counter the "rich professional athlete" card being played though. That was going to be a jury vote handicap
JAF05/25/17 09:29 AM
x*It wasn't like Sarah spilled a secret there. The jury already knew it. Most probably had their minds made up. I knew Zeke would love Sarahs move
PVRlover05/25/17 09:35 AM
x*That could be said about the entire FTC though. Still makes sense to get in that little reminder right before they vote just in case anyone
JAF05/25/17 09:47 AM
x*No doubt, I just don't think many put as much value on winning II as the sole reason to win survivor. How many on that jury never win comps NT
PVRlover05/25/17 10:05 AM
x*Oh I don't think anyone puts that as the SOLE reason. But comp performance is a huge part of the game. I would hope that jurors
JAF05/25/17 10:23 AM
x*Maybe in an average season, but in a season called game changers, I think they probably put more value on the rest of the game NT
PVRlover05/25/17 10:43 AM
x*Or on Brad already being rich. ;-) NT
JAF05/25/17 10:44 AM
x*Maybe if he hadn't acted like an entitled ass and actually put forth the effort to get to know people he would have overcome that. NT
Pixie505/25/17 09:35 AM
x*Did she say "rich"? NT
FurlessBat05/25/17 09:31 AM
x*No. That's the beauty of it - you don't have to. They all know he was an NFL player, so all it takes is the reminder of "professional athlete"
JAF05/25/17 09:45 AM
x*I haven't heard any of the survivors talk about who deserves to win being influenced by money this year. Have you? I hear that line more in BB. NT
BlondeMoment05/25/17 09:47 AM
x*You rarely hear it DURING a Survivor season, because all we see is the TV edit and there's no 24-hr cameras airing what they say off the cuff.
JAF05/25/17 09:55 AM
*For those asking why Sarah didn't vote Troyzan & force the tie here is a link to her answer
PVRlover359 4   05/25/17 08:39 AM
x*Let that be a lesson to anyone here who gets chosen to play the game. Bring some trinket of fake sentimental value to barter with. NT
trifecta05/25/17 09:58 AM
x*Be cause a tie would only help Tai. Sarah only cared about herself. Voting out Tai was a sure way to f3. Making fire would have only helped her if it
robin005/25/17 09:43 AM
x*But the point is she couldn't be 100 percent sure that Brad and Troy weren't really voting her off. This would've gave her a 2nd chance if they
trifecta05/25/17 10:03 AM
x*I do like it that she learned from Tony. She was furious that he would swear on his badge and not mean it. If nothing else, she's a quick study. NT
robin005/25/17 10:50 AM
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