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*The only reason a non-Jason/Justin fan has to keep watching BBOTT.
Blackheart951 4   10/06/16 08:24 PM
x*Just a few brief points, if you’ll allow me.
Mikentosh10/07/16 05:44 PM
x*I never said there is one true way. However, I have watched 18 seasons. I have seen 18 ways. Not all were valid. Several ways had assistance.
10/08/16 03:07 PM
x*Thank you for joining the fight. We need to support Alex, Morgan, Shelby, Whitney and even scott. Or we lose the show. NT
10/07/16 01:12 PM
x*That would be glorious, almost like Aitu tribe's run on Survior. It would be an amazing thing but as you mentioned odds are not good NT
10/07/16 02:19 AM
*I know most of us are enjoying the format and the power to poke at the people we dont like and reward the ones we do but there is a greater thing here
522 2   10/06/16 07:46 PM
x*Thoughtful post. Thanks!! NT
fishinlady10/06/16 11:22 PM
x*Very well written post!! Gave all of us food for thought!! NT
macysmom10/06/16 11:14 PM
*My thoughts on the OTT live eviction format
hyrulegrrl16440 2   10/06/16 09:19 AM
x*I love this idea. It would also be nice to have some sort of music playing softly while people vote. The silence was awkward. NT
Saedron10/06/16 06:31 PM
x*That would be nice! It was definitely quieter than usual without Julie's banter in between votes. NT
hyrulegrrl1610/07/16 06:24 AM
*Been really struggling with the OTT. Might be over it.
macysmom678 4   10/06/16 08:10 AM
x*This is obviously extremely low budget compared to Big Brother. I like the creativity in making comps that take very little manpower (aka crew) to
FurnitureAlliance10/06/16 05:07 PM
x*“America” has to be subscribed to vote…
Mikentosh10/06/16 04:56 PM
x*Mikentosh you make a very great point.
macysmom10/06/16 11:09 PM
x*Good point on the part of the LFC! NT
FurnitureAlliance10/06/16 05:08 PM
*I've seen bits & pieces of OTT and so far... meh. Mainly, it doesn't feel different enough for me to be too excited one way or another.
tv_savage179 0   10/04/16 08:11 AM
*I haven't really gotten into nor given up on BBOTT, but
847 3   10/03/16 04:30 AM
x*If it was all of "America" voting maybe true, but who is watching All Access besides dedicated fans? I think that majority will vote differently NT
susie1010/05/16 06:35 AM
x*Very good point, and I think it's going to have a big effect on this season.
Majuro10/03/16 07:59 PM
x*So very true!!
macysmom10/03/16 10:35 AM
*No, it wasn't super exciting. Or intriguing. I even dozed off for a couple minutes during it....
frustratedposter1145 6   09/30/16 03:32 PM
x*Yeah! I said it before and i'll say it again it's like falling in love with Big Brother all over again. Agree very much with your last words
SpaceEVA10/02/16 06:16 AM
x*^ Well, everything was amazing and exciting and interesting until the voting process became clearer and it looks to be another disappointment.
SpaceEVA10/06/16 04:22 PM
x*First of all great post as usual, I really enjoy your commentary. Secondly, it touches on a lot of things I've been feeling about BB in general
10/07/16 01:04 AM
x*Maybe the viewers could vote for America's Favorite Housegest each week from week 1. Then at the end the overall winner gets the cash.
FurnitureAlliance10/06/16 05:21 PM
x*Already did that called BB16, BB17 & BB18...we got sleeping, throwing every comp, voting with the House & media moguls pandering to the camera NT
HarleyQ10/06/16 05:30 PM
x*No we didn't NT
FurnitureAlliance10/07/16 01:02 PM
*For me 4 hours left until the start to this new bb..
macysmom561 2   09/28/16 02:22 PM
x*I am very curious also.
Papacrispin09/29/16 09:39 AM
x*Papacrispin, actually watched for quite a few hours..
macysmom09/29/16 02:47 PM
*My Over The Top ™ Snap Judgements, based on nothing.
Ephandis843 3   09/27/16 12:08 PM
x*Interesting take !!
macysmom09/27/16 04:44 PM
x*So far I haven't got really interested in it. I may
09/30/16 08:13 AM
x*Me, too. I'm trying to watch, but haven't been able to muster up the time, so as always, I'm keeping up via JU - my go-to BB site, lol! NT
ShrewLou09/30/16 11:28 AM
*BB18 Houseguests Social Media accounts:
566 0   09/23/16 12:45 PM
*Would anyone like to try to talk me into or out of paying attention to BB Over The Top (OTT)?
Mikentosh1581 8   09/22/16 04:05 PM
x*I am on the ledge trying to decide this quandary myself..
macysmom09/26/16 05:39 PM
x*I'm not gonna do it. (1) It's too soon for another season, risking burn out; (2) I don't wanna support their pay-TV model. NT
JAF09/23/16 05:47 AM
x*Will it also air on regular cbs? NT
CougarSpy09/23/16 05:57 AM
x*No. NT
debbiedu2209/23/16 06:10 AM
x*I'm gonna check it out. Sorta hoping I don't like it...I feel I put too much time in on BB18. NT
09/23/16 01:49 AM
x*I have the answer for you. If you remember BB2 or BB6 then You should...
09/22/16 08:08 PM
x*We need to create a BB-Holics Aonymous Group NT
Papacrispin09/22/16 06:30 PM
x*Hello, my name is Mary and I'm a BB-holic... NT
09/23/16 01:50 AM
*I think there's a distinction between good gameplay and a good narrative. Paul had the better narrative because he started on the wrong side of the
jovoh1891 10   09/22/16 06:24 AM
x*It's obvious to both Casual viewers and Alumnis that Paul played a better game. Nicole had easy mode, Paul had hard mode. Just like season 13:
Kay1910/02/16 09:13 AM
x*Not SO Obvious...
Mikentosh10/02/16 06:43 PM
x*I agree. plus Paul would have been screwed if Victor never returned. I bet he wouldnt even make final 4. NT
JSDSandiego09/23/16 02:44 AM
x*Neither would have Nicole so your point is valid. NT
09/23/16 01:43 PM
x*You can't know that! Please preface opinions as such, not fact. NT
09/23/16 05:27 AM
x*Nicole's narrative, in her own words, was that she sat back for most of the game and let her alliance do everything. I don't see a difference between
09/22/16 07:27 AM
x*Nicole played the same game James did only she won comps where James didnt. Thats the difference. NT
09/22/16 08:09 PM
x*Nicole herself said "everything was happening the way she wanted." What they fail to realize it's because Paul divided and conquered the 8pack. NT
Pyke09/22/16 08:04 AM
x*Paul didn't even KNOW about the 8 pack until after it was breaking up. NT
Nusa09/22/16 07:47 PM
x*Anthropologists have determined it was Da’Vonne and Frank’s feud that fractured the 8 Pac. :)
Mikentosh09/22/16 08:28 AM
*I believe the Jurors that voted for Nicole to win will regret their vote once they settle in and learn about her public opinion this season.
Whoisnoone1033 5   09/22/16 12:19 AM
x*As I go back and watch the feeds I started realizing that people came to them to talk game. They definitely were not left out of things. NT
BoPeep09/27/16 07:29 AM
x*Jurors shouldnt base their vote on who America likes. The majority thought Nicole played a better game. She deserved to win. Get over it. NT
JSDSandiego09/23/16 02:46 AM
x*I agree. But also I dont think it will matter because they all (with the exception of Nicole, James Day and Frank) got new fans. BBOTT will wash
09/22/16 08:12 PM
x*I don't feel that way at all. NT
Papacrispin09/22/16 06:33 PM
x*I am feeling regretful already. NT
augieslimpo09/22/16 07:06 AM
*My only solice to nicole winning IS:
Whoisnoone3318 19   09/21/16 10:18 PM
x*i thought Nic played well. Even Danielle Reyes said ..
Papacrispin09/22/16 06:44 PM
x*This American loves Nicole and has all season. This American hates jealousy clouding reality.
Mikentosh09/22/16 08:23 AM
x*Most Americans who "Love Nicole" are TV watchers only. She acted like a saint, then sexed it up with Corey day & night. NT
09/23/16 05:30 AM
x*Well, I would call that a win-win! :-) NT
debbiedu2209/23/16 06:10 AM
x*Excellent analysis of the game of Nicole -- and other observations! NT
BBenthusiast09/22/16 08:51 AM
x*Re: "America was SO not in her corner"... then how come she won the 3rd America's Care Pkg while Paul didn't win any of them? NT
JAF09/22/16 06:55 AM
x*It's called a rig. Nobody believes for one second Corey actually won that package. More production help for Nicole. She got alot of help NT
somethinggood09/25/16 11:42 PM
x*Because most of "America" only saw the good edits she got on TV. They didn't see the truth. NT
augieslimpo09/22/16 07:06 AM
x*So in other words they did back Nicole over Paul, and you're blaming that on the edit
ShadowNinja09/22/16 09:43 AM
x*Irrelevant to the OP's claim though. It still reflected the way America felt (those that chose to vote, anyway). NT
JAF09/22/16 08:08 AM
x*Hope the person who wrote this will be cured of bitterness. Nicole may not have been America's favorite, but she played better than Paul
JSDSandiego09/22/16 01:49 AM
x*Opinions only, and others are different. NT
09/23/16 05:32 AM
x*Wasn't Paul the one protecting Victor? Paul did all right without him. NT
jovoh09/22/16 02:35 AM
x*Vic won 3 HOHs, giving paul 3 weeks of safety. Also the HGs saw Victor as a bigger threat, so he was shielded but Vic being a threat. NT
JSDSandiego09/23/16 02:49 AM
x*Paul never, ever protected Victor. Paul only cared about Paul. NT
CougarSpy09/22/16 02:43 AM
x*He did when Victor re-entered the first time. Paulie should have been threatened by Victor's return, but Paul integrated him. NT
jovoh09/22/16 03:44 AM
x*$500,000 goes a long way in Ubly. Winning Big Brother was her dream, and she achieved that. She was gonna be criticized anyway, so better she won. NT
jovoh09/21/16 11:44 PM
x*I'm ok with Nicole winning, especially when it could have been one of those duds in jury. But I'm so ready to never listen to her whiney ass again NT
09/22/16 07:30 AM
x*She only does paid appearances according to RHAP NT
Adamlovechild109/21/16 11:29 PM
*Congratulations to Nicole! She proved me wrong. I thought for sure that she wrote the check to Paul when she didn't evict him during her HOH. I don't
jovoh2548 15   09/21/16 08:14 PM
x*I don't believe higher powers bother with things like Big B, but I have to say "Paul, Karma is a bitch". NT
Grammy09/22/16 05:50 AM
x*Corey of all people switched my vote to Nicole when he said Paul played a great game being nominated so much but Nicole too by NOT being nommed.
Majuro09/21/16 09:01 PM
x*Perhaps, but the people ranked the best BB winners are those who survived danger being on the block NT
ShadowNinja09/22/16 09:54 AM
x*In two seasons, Dan faced an eviction vote only once. Derrick never, unless you count final three. NT
jovoh09/22/16 10:38 AM
x*Taken at face value, I do think that staying off the block is more impressive than surviving the block, but with Paul being a new player and being on
jovoh09/21/16 09:42 PM
x*You can't ignore the piss-poor jury management. #NeverCared NT
Mikentosh09/21/16 10:10 PM
x*He put a lot of time into rectifying things with Michelle, but yeah, his attitude with Natalie might have been part of his downfall. NT
jovoh09/21/16 11:14 PM
x*Actually Paul's speech was horrible. All he did was repeat himself and say he is crazy. NT
arbo09/21/16 08:50 PM
x*True. He never acknowledged or answered the question about disrespecting the women, and talked around it instead. NT
Nusa09/21/16 11:39 PM
x*I wasn't crazy about Paul's speech when he was rehearsing it, but to end your F2 speech with "I don't know" is unforgivable. NT
jovoh09/21/16 09:06 PM
x*I was shocked that Michelle voted for Paul.
Mikentosh09/21/16 08:24 PM
x*Meech hated Paul a bit less than Nicole. Those 2 were her nightmare F2 NT
Canucklehead09/21/16 08:37 PM
x*That alone makes me happy they WERE the F2 then. ;-)
JAF09/22/16 07:02 AM
x*Just Michelle. Bridgette is fine with it. NT
Nusa09/22/16 07:49 PM
x*Meech and Bridgette still voted for Paul... then again, Bridgette I wasn't shocked. NT
Digitalpotato09/21/16 08:27 PM
*It ain't over till it's over!!!!! Who'da thought the outcome would be Nicole?? Happy or Sad? What say you JokersPosters?
BBenthusiast2530 16   09/21/16 07:56 PM
x*Disappointed. Nicole deserved to go out 3rd. NT
somethinggood09/25/16 11:42 PM
x*The more I think about the happier I am that she won
ShadowNinja09/22/16 09:59 AM
x*Happy, especially since so many of those nasty women in the jury house hate her. Hehe. :-)
JAF09/22/16 06:44 AM
x*Was a Nicole fan in season 16, not so much this time. She became such a whiner. But couldn't stand Paul or his game play, so I'm HAPPY! NT
jube09/22/16 06:35 AM
x*Wasn't a huge Nicole fan but I'm happy with the outcome NT
Kryamina09/22/16 12:30 AM
x*I couldn’t be happier
Mikentosh09/21/16 10:32 PM
x*I 'm with you on both Paul and James. I think Paul was the worst Winner in BB history. His jumping around like a devilish imp around a Hell-fire
Grammy09/22/16 02:55 PM
x*I thought when James voted Paul Paul had won so was pretty surprised but she played a game deserving to win as did Paul. NT
arbo09/21/16 08:48 PM
x*Paul deserved to lose, which means Nicole deserved to win by default.
Canucklehead09/21/16 08:47 PM
x*In Nicole's defence, Paul made some pretty bad moves. (Did Meech take Paul's brains out with Pablo?)
Digitalpotato09/21/16 08:42 PM
x*Pauls worst move was not taking James to F2. That cost him $450,000! NT
Nusa09/21/16 11:33 PM
x*That did shock me. He got cocky, convincing himself he'd win easily either way. Serves him right. That was an even worse F2 choice than Cody made
JAF09/22/16 06:50 AM
x*Very happy!! I've always liked her, too. :-) NT
debbiedu2209/21/16 08:35 PM
x*It redeemed an otherwise lousy season (well, partially redeemed anyway). Loved the upset finish! NT
JAF09/22/16 06:52 AM
x*I didn't find her sweet or endearing. She played like her last go round and should have been beaten in the end by the newbie who owned F5. NT
cjj309/21/16 08:33 PM
x*You mean F4. Corey and Nicole owned F5 and evicted Vic. NT
Nusa09/21/16 11:34 PM
*I think it's a possibility that James played a better game that it seems.
KarenC31074 5   09/21/16 04:34 PM
x*Whether or not James threw a bunch of competitions is beside the point. He's a vet that was nominated only once and reached final three. His gameplay
jovoh09/21/16 05:23 PM
x*Of course, Nicole is also a vet that was nominated only once and reached final three. On that score they're equal. NT
Nusa09/21/16 05:40 PM
x*Indeed, James and Nicole had similar strategies, either by accident or design. Nicole backed it up with some actual comp wins when it mattered. NT
Nusa09/21/16 05:18 PM
x*I don't think there's any way Paul takes James. He talks to Nicole the way he would talk to Victor if he was there. I do think Paul is afraid of
FurnitureAlliance09/21/16 04:53 PM
x*Everything that Paul said about not wanting to lose against James can be said about Nicole too. It's possible he wants to blindside her, but I think
KarenC309/21/16 06:05 PM
*I just had an idea...Didn't Corey get a jock strap in his "care package"?...
401 1   09/21/16 02:54 PM
x*When they get out let's beg them to do the Hiney Dance NT
FurnitureAlliance09/21/16 05:22 PM
*Thanks to everyone...
jasunny185 0   09/21/16 11:09 AM
*See Ya Next Season! Thanks for the fun chats!
Majuro554 3   09/20/16 09:30 PM
x*So in a week then? NT
09/21/16 10:08 AM
x*It's not over yet! I've enjoyed your posts and look forward to seeing more! NT
09/21/16 02:46 AM
x*You too! See ya! I did come back to post because Finale was so good! Normally it's not, but I loved those comps, and final vote was dramatic! NT
Majuro09/21/16 09:05 PM
*Interesting opinions of Julie Chen.....
3611 20   09/20/16 11:39 AM
x*Brent Wolgamott doesn’t like Nicole personally either, but he admitted she is the better player.
Mikentosh09/20/16 01:35 PM
x*Mikentosh terrific post about RHAP. I never an episode of RHAP but,
Papacrispin09/21/16 03:33 PM
x*I think Brent has his place on the show. He represents the viewers who get passionate about what happens in the house.It makes the show better imo NT
FurnitureAlliance09/21/16 05:06 PM
x*Nicole hung Michelle and Z out to dry with the Da'Vonne vote. Then those two were on the block the next week. That was very snakey. NT
jovoh09/21/16 10:13 AM
x*It’s the classic conundrum —
Mikentosh09/21/16 02:47 PM
x*Michelle finished seventh as a first-time player with no chance to return. That's better than "superfan" Nicole in 16. NT
jovoh09/21/16 05:18 PM
x*Not better than. Equal to. Nicole finished 7th in BB16. NT
Nusa09/21/16 05:43 PM
x*True dat! NT
09/21/16 03:08 PM
x*Disagree. If Z/M were so out of the loop to not know who was going to be evicted, that is on THEM. Play the game, or go home. NT
LettucePray09/21/16 10:47 AM
x*Disagree with what? Nicole pretended to be aligned with them and turned her back on them with that vote. There's nothing else to it. NT
jovoh09/21/16 05:14 PM
x*It's their vote to cast and how to cast it. Not Nicole's. Z asked Paulie how he was voting and he told her. Meech did nothing and went to bed. NT
LettucePray09/22/16 01:46 AM
x*He musta meant better than James. His tweets reflect a definite bias toward Paul. NT
09/21/16 02:44 AM
x*He said he likes Paul better but admits Nicole played a better game. NT
FurnitureAlliance09/21/16 05:08 PM
x*Whoever is the "better player".....
09/20/16 02:46 PM
x*I agree with you but it's true that Paul was saved over and over again because Victor kept coming back and Vic was always a bigger target. So
FurnitureAlliance09/21/16 05:12 PM
x*Here’s something that is not AT ALL opinion…
Mikentosh09/20/16 09:48 PM
x*Paul lacks sportsmanship. When he and James played pool, each time James would win, Paul would wait for James to rack the pool balls. Then Paul would
CIAO09/21/16 05:23 PM
x*That was Paul's social game at work, not Paulie deciding to be charitable to Paul. NT
FurnitureAlliance09/21/16 05:13 PM
x*Paulie took him in because he earned his trust by not using veto to save vic early in the season. NT
CougarSpy09/21/16 02:57 AM
x*That fact can also be seen as an accolade to Paul's gameplay. I'm sure he put some effort into changing Paulie's mind about him. NT
09/21/16 02:07 AM
*What is your definition of a showmance?
BoPeep508 3   09/19/16 07:43 AM
x*A relationship that starts on a TV show, and usually ends shortly after show does. NT
09/19/16 07:48 AM
x*I'd just go with the first half of that. e.g. just because Jeff and Jordan made it work, doesn't mean it wasn't a showmance at the time. NT
Nusa09/19/16 08:21 AM
x*There are a few more marriages that started as showmances. NT
09/19/16 08:41 AM
*Observations drawn from the official Jokers Prediction Poll (1623 votes at this writing):
Nusa707 2   09/19/16 12:19 AM
x*Surprising! I have James only getting Natalie's and Michelle's votes! NT
09/19/16 06:49 AM
x*After listening to Nicole's speech and lies SHE may just get 2 votes! NT
09/19/16 01:11 PM
*I have really enjoyed this season! So many new
3369 25   09/17/16 10:02 AM
x*Roadkill is the one element I would keep. Throw out returning vets, jury buybacks, RT tickets. NT
jillpole09/19/16 07:46 PM
x*i liked RT and wish it had been used :) NT
Belle09/20/16 11:42 AM
x*I did like the road kill comp..but
macysmom09/18/16 11:24 PM
x*I like this season. I give it a B+. NT
bluegreen09/18/16 09:37 PM
x*I give it a C-. Thought it was in the bottom half. Hated having two eviction reversals (and could have been 3 had a return ticket been found).
JAF09/19/16 06:37 AM
x*I think the RT ticket and return of a juror was an either or situation NT
09/19/16 07:10 AM
x*Good point. So woulda been 2 either way. Although still 2 too many for my tastes. NT
JAF09/19/16 07:18 AM
x*For me it has been the worst season ever. I quit watching in July.. NT
Sizzle09/18/16 02:52 PM
x*I did like Road Kill and some of the better comps. However, I think overall this has been a bad season.
starr4all09/17/16 08:55 PM
x*I loved this season too. I know I am I seem to be in the minority based of all the complaints here at jokers but I thought it was a great season. NT
jjnewboots09/17/16 07:28 PM
x*I can't understand people hanging around game discussion if they hate the game..... NT
09/19/16 07:12 AM
x*Hate the player, not the game. NT
09/20/16 12:28 AM
x*Hate is what's wrong with the world. None of the BB players are worth hating. It's not like they've killed anyone. NT
Nusa09/20/16 08:58 AM
x*I'm the opposite. Vets protected by teams, bad gameplay, boring personalities. A lost year. NT
09/17/16 04:07 PM
x*Really interested to know why you've stuck it out? I will close a book if it gets boring, same with a TV show. NT
09/17/16 05:59 PM
x*I always come to Jokers especially when feeds are too boring. NT
09/17/16 10:39 PM
x*Most of the time Jokers IS about the feeds and game, so it should be boring here also. NT
09/19/16 07:15 AM
x*Weren't you the one that was throwing in the towel a while back, being unable to handle the people and twists this season? NT
Nusa09/17/16 04:00 PM
x*Hell no! I have complained many times, but never about being bored - Look up my posts if you need verification. NT
09/17/16 05:56 PM
x*Glad you stuck it out. Almost a month ago you were pretty down:
Nusa09/18/16 06:31 AM
x*LOL-I wonder what pissed me off that day! Oh yeah, it was feed blocking. Disappointed and disgusted yes. Bored no. NT
09/18/16 07:14 AM
x*IMO,It would've been better if there were NO vets and NO family members or friends of former hgs. NT
bluedevilsfan7109/18/16 05:53 PM
x*But then we woulda missed Paulie's melt down! NT
09/19/16 07:29 AM
x*That would be ok with me he's a bully, only has respect for himself. NT
bluedevilsfan7109/19/16 10:58 AM
x*I'm totally onboard with that! I hope they have listened to all the complaints about that this season. NT
09/19/16 07:17 AM
*So I got into a nice little debate with my younger niece during Wednesdays Episode where they were using the Veto and she told me she felt sorry for
Tamms2099 12   09/17/16 07:52 AM
x*In James's case, he never tried to memorize days/events. That means he never intended to try to win, even if he needed to. No pity. NT
09/18/16 11:17 AM
x*Nobody complained about him throwing the wall comp to Nicole even though it was stupid to trust her. NT
dark_star09/18/16 05:59 PM
x*Most of us watching feeds could tell he was losing and decided to drop to save face. It was obvious. NT
09/19/16 07:21 AM
x*Well that isn't entirely true, some did think he was a fool. I think the rest thought he was really ready to fall and tried to "look good. NT
ne14cookies09/18/16 06:10 PM
x*I would have been more interested in what made her sorry for James, rather than trying to change her viewpoint. She's entitled to her feelings. NT
Nusa09/17/16 03:57 PM
x*I agree..
macysmom09/17/16 11:56 AM
x*I don't totally agree. I don't think James intentionally blew that comp. I think James really is not good at retaining details, he can't even
JillyBean09/17/16 08:58 AM
x*I don't think he threw it. I think he simply didn't keep track of events by days, and guessing was next to useless in that comp. NT
Nusa09/17/16 04:37 PM
x*Did you also tell her he almost certainly will win at least 50K? NT
09/17/16 08:30 AM
x*All the returnees got 50K to come, more to make jury and James has 5K more. Already. NT
Mikentosh09/17/16 10:12 AM
x*It was 22K, according a Nic/James convo on feeds a while back. And from a Frank convo, we know they got it even if they didn't make jury. NT
Nusa09/17/16 03:50 PM
x*I don't think they got 50K to come back. Source? Please don't repeat gossip as fact. NT
09/17/16 10:55 AM
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