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*Where are the alums this year. We usually see pictures of them at the finale and with other HG's NT
HOHMaster26 3   09/21/17 06:12 PM
x*The cast party is tonight so I would expect to see some NT
binkie9409/21/17 06:24 PM
x*There was an alum "block" in the audience on the show last night... but it's been less than a day... give them a chance... NT
Evil_TX_Redhead09/21/17 06:23 PM
x*I saw pics of them with The Revengers HGs and Rachel and Elissa. NT
Evelrocker09/21/17 06:21 PM
*So Paul clearly has NO idea why he didn't win. Do u think his parents will sit him down and lay it out to him? NT
3kidz280 23   09/21/17 06:03 PM
x*He's a typical millennial spoiled brat living at home sponging off mom and pop and milking free medical coverage till he's 26. I'm a business..
todo09/21/17 06:33 PM
x*Work with a lot millennials & they're some of my best employees the Boomers, are always dragging people. Paul is a spoiled trust fund brat. NT
phobos09/21/17 07:51 PM
x*exactly. so entitled and coddled. young guy thinks he is a philosopher bestowing his worldly wisdom on anyone that can hear him & they should be
javabean09/21/17 06:58 PM
x*Seems I've heard something about snowflakes in parent's basements. Hmmm NT
1KYWildcat09/21/17 06:50 PM
x*ABSOLUTELY agree! Terrible! NT
producerswife09/21/17 06:44 PM
x*Are his parents BB experts? lol I doubt they know why he lost either NT
utty1409/21/17 06:31 PM
x*It doesn't take a genius to know that he treated the HGs pretty poorly NT
3kidz09/21/17 06:37 PM
x*They probably only watch tv show, which heavily protected him & only showed negatives when they were balanced by negatives of person he was against NT
utty1409/21/17 06:45 PM
x*Also, they're his parents so they probably don't care if he hurt some strangers on a reality show. NT
utty1409/21/17 06:45 PM
x*His parents are the reason he is the way he is. He is a spoiled brat. NT
teetee09/21/17 06:14 PM
x*^yep NT
Matzak09/21/17 06:37 PM
x*Winner winner chicken dinner !!! Yup! Entitled SPOILED BRAT for the win !! NT
Mazita09/21/17 06:35 PM
x*Amen. NT
jenayroux09/21/17 06:26 PM
x*I'm sure they don't know either! Why didn't those mean old HGs give baby boy his money? NT
gd2BQueen09/21/17 06:11 PM
x*He also states he "never cared" but then goes on to give a long a$$ lame / no accountability explanation on his reasons NT
BB201109/21/17 06:10 PM
x*Nope, I think they baby him. I think Paul probably has always been like he is. Time for his parents to cut the string on him a little. Let him get
dillybean09/21/17 06:08 PM
x*No...They obviously didn’t do it last year since his logic and reasoning for losing is almost exactly the excuses he gave last year NT
JoshGallet09/21/17 06:07 PM
x*He is not a learning individual. NT
shan2204409/21/17 06:39 PM
x*Not mensa NT
BB201109/21/17 06:55 PM
x*Good point! I didn't think of that. NT
3kidz09/21/17 06:30 PM
x*Mommy will buy him a new toy and send him on a trip to heal his bruised ego. NT
BigBroBeauty09/21/17 06:06 PM
x*Yep NT
lianna09/21/17 06:13 PM
x*LOL! No. NT
mulmanster09/21/17 06:04 PM
*Not many pics of the HG's out and about this year. NT
dillybean240 6   09/21/17 06:01 PM
x*I saw one earlier of Mark/Elena buying shoes........ I'm pretty sure it was from today - not seen any others though! NT
LSUprincess09/21/17 06:33 PM
x*I'm waiting for the P,C,J going around snap chatting in his Nova was suppose to start
jojo6509/21/17 06:07 PM
x*That was supposed to be his winners lap, the snaps are like gloating over your kills...but he lost. And he's Amer's bully, so nope NT
Not_so_annoyed09/21/17 06:29 PM
x*LOL He was all talk about the 'things he would do with HG's '. It was all part of his thing to get them to think if they stick with him, they will
dillybean09/21/17 06:11 PM
x*I never believed this would happen anyway NT
jojo6509/21/17 06:08 PM
x*Yep... there's a reason most of castmates don't really like hanging with him... NT
Evil_TX_Redhead09/21/17 06:26 PM
*I can't believe I'm asking this but is Raven's Mom's twitter feed really her? I thought it was a joke all summer... NT
andiunfold17 1   09/21/17 05:58 PM
x*I'm not 100% sure which you're talking about, but yes, one is a joke... NT
Evil_TX_Redhead09/21/17 06:12 PM
*Paul keeps saying he did everything he could in the game & rest is on the jury, but he fails to acknowledged that he failed at jury management. NT
SpinEcho223 11   09/21/17 05:57 PM
x*He failed on jury management last year. Still blames them. NT
Pinkmallow09/21/17 06:37 PM
x*I dont believe he failed at jury management bcz what Josh did in his GBM was underhand P jury management to make Jurors mad at him NT
JSweetness09/21/17 06:20 PM
x*based on the final vote, yes he failed at jury management NT
zagger09/21/17 06:45 PM
x*Josh was increasingly peeved at taking the heat for voting people out, while Paul got to vote to keep evictees & play innocent. He was shot down by
SockThief09/21/17 06:40 PM
x*So Josh telling the truth in his GBMs was “underhanded”? And I guess Paul telling lies in his GBMs was righteous game play? Paul was stupid! NT
ChristmasInJuly09/21/17 06:38 PM
x*How is it underhanded? All he did was tell the truth...that he, Paul & Xmas were in an alliance. Paul was the one who LIED in his GBM's ("Xmas went
grammypampam09/21/17 06:32 PM
x*Josh's gbms were his best move all summer. Smart. NT
theotherguy09/21/17 06:28 PM
x*I don't think Paul has had to admit he's been wrong most of his life. I forget how young he really is. Hopefully the last 2 years will give him
dillybean09/21/17 06:05 PM
x*He didn't own it! And since he's never watched the show he doesn't know that's a thing you should do NT
jammin_jen09/21/17 06:00 PM
x*Exactly. NT
lianna09/21/17 06:15 PM
x*The most important part of the game. Didn't learn last year, hasn't learned this year. That's why he is a 2 time loser NT
HOHMaster09/21/17 05:58 PM
*why do ppl still think we are ever gonna get another all-stars? NT
izzatyou45 4   09/21/17 05:56 PM
x*Before this season Allison and rich pretty clearly said there was little chance of another all stars in the future NT
arbo09/21/17 06:52 PM
x*They've been saying there won't be another AS for years, people just keep hoping. NT
N2BB09/21/17 07:02 PM
x*Vets are paid $25,000-$40,000 just to BE on the show plus anything they win. That's at least double what newbies get IF they make jury. And they get
grammypampam09/21/17 06:46 PM
x*Why? If they paid them $0, they would still beg to be on the show. And if not, then some other vet will take their place! NT
PowerofVito09/21/17 07:37 PM
*Just finished watching Rob's interview of Raven. If U haven't seen it do yourself a favor & watch it. It's one of the best things about the season! NT
Corndogger50 7   09/21/17 05:55 PM
x*He definitely killed that interview like a professional! NT
hfabs09/21/17 06:53 PM
x* He also encouraged her to go see what her fans were saying about her. Would love to be a fly on that wall. NT
michele2930209/21/17 06:51 PM
x*She had no clue how bad he was trolling her! It was priceless! NT
N2BB09/21/17 06:17 PM
x*Yeah... was funny when he told her a lot of fan groups held several "Raven Parties" during the season & asked what her best puppet master move was. NT
FamilyMan09/21/17 06:13 PM
x*And said something else about her being big topic in the BB community or something... I don't recall exactly... NT
Evil_TX_Redhead09/21/17 06:19 PM
x*My favorite was when he asked her what was her favorite flavor of kool aide from Paul. NT
new2bb09/21/17 06:28 PM
x*ANd the fact that she named one... we don't think they had actual kool-aid in the house so makes it even funnier... NT
Evil_TX_Redhead09/21/17 06:52 PM
*Jessica didn’t even make jury, yet still had more DRs then most of the HGs NT
taylorandtom10 0   09/21/17 05:55 PM
*Paul - about Cody winning AFP >>>
BB2011952 5   09/21/17 05:55 PM
x*He's so delusional... he was the one OBSESSED with Cody...even his last statement to the last evicted HG was about Cody... NT
Evil_TX_Redhead09/21/17 06:46 PM
x*I agree with him and it was his opinion. He didn't seem upset by it, he just didn't understand it. NT
JuicyJ09/21/17 06:44 PM
x*he is pretty much on point, he just doesn't know how much people hated him. NT
sliver01309/21/17 06:10 PM
x*Exactly why I am happy Cody won, makes it even better. NT
BigBroBeauty09/21/17 06:05 PM
x*Yep! NT
BB201109/21/17 06:11 PM
*Will raven and Matt think differently about Paul when they see the bb segment of Paul calling her a pathological liar?? NT
3kidz44 9   09/21/17 05:43 PM
x*She'll say he had to say that and it was all game NT
binkie9409/21/17 07:03 PM
x*She will just take it as a compliment... of her masterful game play. NT
FamilyMan09/21/17 06:15 PM
x*Not sure Raven's momma will let her watch NT
olfactoryhues09/21/17 05:53 PM
x*Matt is proud of being a loser. He was happy to go out 8th and says he was true to himself. Raven still doesn't know what GPA means NT
Pixie509/21/17 05:52 PM
x*Many people have lost Big Brother. life goes on. What's to be ashamed of? NT
krh503809/21/17 05:56 PM
x*Probably not NT
LastBandit09/21/17 05:51 PM
x*No, those to are so pathetic, and delusional nothing or no one will ever convince them how horrible they were at the game and irreverent NT
HOHMaster09/21/17 05:46 PM
x*They'll just blame editing, and keep leaving voice mail for Paul asking for his Kool Aid recipe. NT
Singaling09/21/17 05:45 PM
BB201109/21/17 05:49 PM
*Other years when they did The Talk, didn't the final 2 or 3 go on with the winner ? NT
dillybean57 17   09/21/17 05:33 PM
x*Only Nicole went last yr NT
JSweetness09/21/17 06:22 PM
x*lol I remember BB16 and Derrick and Frankie went on the Talk, don't remember Cody or Victoria being there. It was all about Julie and Frankie iirc NT
colleenag09/21/17 06:19 PM
x*When Maggie won Janelle went on and not Maggie. NT
Debra_Kadabra09/21/17 05:43 PM
x*The talk wasn't even a show when maggie won NT
taylorandtom09/21/17 05:51 PM
x*The Janelle Maggie thing happened with The View. Maggie was on too, but the interview was mostly Janelle NT
Whirligig09/21/17 05:58 PM
x*Didn't remember Maggie being on no matter the name of Julie's show. NT
Debra_Kadabra09/21/17 06:07 PM
x*Julie was never on The View. Maybe you're thinking of the CBS morning show? NT
Whirligig09/21/17 06:09 PM
x*Right. The Talk started right after BB12 ended NT
krh503809/21/17 05:57 PM
x*Maybe CBS got the message, we had enough of the Paul show. NT
BBbiggirl09/21/17 05:37 PM
x*Was it just Josh? NT
rando11109/21/17 05:35 PM
x*Yes, and he did good. They gave him pots and pans as a gift...lol. NT
dillybean09/21/17 05:40 PM
x*yes NT
BB201109/21/17 05:39 PM
x*How did he do? NT
Singaling09/21/17 05:40 PM
x*e did well. It was a VERY short segment NT
BB201109/21/17 05:42 PM
x*Good. I'm sure it was exciting for him. NT
Singaling09/21/17 05:44 PM
x*He did seem to be tickled pink. :) NT
BB201109/21/17 05:47 PM
x*maybe Paul didn't want to go haha NT
westfeeder09/21/17 05:33 PM
*Final DR count. Total and Averages.
Debra_Kadabra672 12   09/21/17 05:27 PM
x*Paul w/ a hundred more than next highest. Ridiculous how much this season was built around one HG. Not even Will or Janie or Dan got such treatment NT
utty1409/21/17 06:37 PM
x*Wow, Xmas didn't have many DRs NT
nicholaspuppy09/21/17 05:34 PM
x*I've been saying for weeks that she was a DR dud & Prod won't have her back 4 that alone but lots keep saying she's a lock to return NT
utty1409/21/17 06:34 PM
x*Besides the tail-half of the season, she was hardly featured on the show. No great loss. NT
WillRulz09/21/17 05:42 PM
x*Not playing in so many comps hurt her DR totals. NT
Corndogger09/21/17 05:40 PM
x*Maybe but she also has a very forced unnatural DR presence. Very scripted. NT
utty1409/21/17 06:35 PM
x*I forgot about that, because we did see Christmas in the DR quite a bit. But most DRs are about comps. NT
ScienceGirl09/21/17 05:47 PM
x*what does this mean? NT
westfeeder09/21/17 05:33 PM
x*The chart on the left is # of DRs per episodes (color coded based on whether that # was high or low compared to others in that ep) the chart on the
olfactoryhues09/21/17 05:42 PM
x*Nothing, other than that production chooses DR pets every year who tend to narrate all of the action - those who are the most animated. NT
ScienceGirl09/21/17 05:42 PM
x*Producers didn't like Raven in the DR. She averaged 1.4 Dr's per show. NT
Debra_Kadabra09/21/17 05:40 PM
x*Only 6 more DRs than Ramses all season...lolol NT
peeves09/21/17 05:47 PM
*Not only did Josh win the 500k and BB19 winner title, but he also won the catch phrase battle against Paul! #Meatballs, #Playedyourself #DADADADA NT
westfeeder18 2   09/21/17 05:24 PM
x*That's because Paul is so Gumpy and no one is boyz with him any more. NT
Jake8109/21/17 05:55 PM
x*Ha ha!!!!!!! NT
3kidz09/21/17 06:34 PM
*Josh's goodbye messages had zero effect. Jason forgot his, then didn't believe Josh. Alex & Raven saw them & went to jury still wanting Paul to win NT
PowerofVito244 25   09/21/17 05:21 PM
x*Something changed Alex's mind NT
BB201109/21/17 06:56 PM
x*Cody's subtle jury house management sealed Paul's fate. NT
Jake8109/21/17 05:56 PM
x*And kiss ass Mark would have voted for whom ever Cody told him to. NT
LillyBell09/21/17 06:06 PM
x*Cody said he controlled the jury. so he used his personal hate for paul as his platform. NT
LillyBell09/21/17 06:06 PM
x*Cody used the same keen insight he displayed in pursuing Paul, the same devotion to top ideals of BB play. NT
Jake8109/21/17 09:47 PM
x*I heard him say he had some influence in the jury house and may have used it NT
binkie9409/21/17 07:04 PM
x*Cody. First person in the jury house. Paul screwed up from day one. "I'll wait to send you & Jess to jury house together, if you'll vote for me."
Jake8109/21/17 09:48 PM
x*LMBO Cody wouldnt even talk, so him saying he controlled them is pretty HYSTERICAL as only time game talk allowed when cameras are on! NT
JSweetness09/21/17 06:24 PM
x*Cody's leadership was obvious from the jury videos. Those jurors admire Cody and respect his insights. NT
Jake8109/21/17 09:49 PM
x*In the past that's been true but these ppl seemed awfully riled up even b4 they got to any game discussion footage NT
utty1409/21/17 06:49 PM
x*100% Agree. This was completely about what Paul did and didn't do, not Josh. NT
olfactoryhues09/21/17 05:47 PM
x*Agree 100%. The most bitter jury members that led the charge to have a bitter jury alliance did not even get a fake GB message or an open one from
ScienceGirl09/21/17 05:40 PM
x*Not right away, but once the eviction shock wore off and they all talked, Pauls game crashed with enough jury members to lose it for him NT
dillybean09/21/17 05:30 PM
x*That happens because of Paul lying in his messages, not Josh exposing anything. They knew it was Paul regardless of whether Josh said anything. NT
olfactoryhues09/21/17 05:49 PM
x*Jury management IS a part of the game. PP never card after HG left the house. Unnecessary lying even on finally night NT
Emijo09/21/17 05:30 PM
x*It had an effect once they started to compare notes. It may not have made them think Josh was great but it assisted the wheel to turn on Paul. NT
hfabs09/21/17 05:29 PM
x*Jason said in BY interview with Rob fromRHAP that Paul lying in GB message did sway his vote. He found out about that because of Josh's message. NT
Pixie509/21/17 05:29 PM
x*He didn't. He even said in his question that they found out from talking to each other. Hell, he was blaming Paul in his eviction interview before
olfactoryhues09/21/17 05:48 PM
x*He did not even hear Paul's GB message so he had n idea paul lied! ET Canada had to tell him what Paul's message was. NT
ScienceGirl09/21/17 05:38 PM
x*You can watch for yourself. It's on Youtube NT
Pixie509/21/17 05:49 PM
x*Watch what? He is lying to RHAP. ET Canada did tell him what was in Paul's but that made him not belive Josh...until he got to jury.
ScienceGirl09/21/17 05:52 PM
x*Well, I choose to believe what he says. To each his own. NT
Pixie509/21/17 06:09 PM
x*Why don't you go read the ET Canada interview then? Jason said he was so heated that he did not listen to Paul's message. He then said, it must
ScienceGirl09/21/17 06:18 PM
x*Effects can be residual. NT
HalfManHalfAmazing09/21/17 05:24 PM
x*it's reaching but it's still the best move josh made. lol NT
sliver01309/21/17 05:23 PM
*Does the bandanna Josh wears on his head serve a purpose or does he just think it's cool? You never see him without it. NT
diddly31 5   09/21/17 05:19 PM
x*One night on the feeds he was asked about it. He responded "they" (production) make him wear it. He normally does not wear one regularly IRL. NT
PandaLover09/21/17 08:25 PM
x*^This. Just like production wanted the beard on Donny. NT
KatMo09/21/17 09:31 PM
x*it must be a Miami thing NT
westfeeder09/21/17 05:34 PM
x*He just likes wearing them. I'm the same way, wear them almost everyday all summer long, and I'm not even a biker or in a gang ;-) NT
justin_2pac09/21/17 05:26 PM
x*I assume it helps during summers in Miami. NT
KungFuBarbie09/21/17 05:43 PM
*Was there any after-party last night? NT
Barbara1130 11   09/21/17 05:19 PM
x*most of them are still in a hotel for 24hrs w/debriefing NT
JSweetness09/21/17 06:25 PM
x*Supposedly it's tonight NT
justin_2pac09/21/17 05:24 PM
x*Which means James Rhine goes for another notch on his belt NT
AmericasPlayer09/21/17 05:28 PM
x*He was already with Jess for a week. NT
ScienceGirl09/21/17 05:43 PM
x*you're kidding? lol NT
izzatyou09/21/17 05:47 PM
x*No. I am serious. RHAP reported them hanging out together a week or so after Jess was evicted. I am not saying they had sex. They both enjoy the
ScienceGirl09/21/17 06:23 PM
x*It's gonna be Alex or Jillian NT
rando11109/21/17 05:35 PM
x*Jillian lol NT
AmericasPlayer09/21/17 05:39 PM
x*Poor Christmas! NT
Vixter09/21/17 05:33 PM
x*Showmances probably whooped it up indoors. NT
diddly09/21/17 05:23 PM
x*You know it NT
AmericasPlayer09/21/17 05:26 PM
*The high & low of Robs BY interviews: Low: sucking up to Paul High: Rob's re-enactment of Matt's high pitched hissy fit with Jason. Hysterical NT
3kidz73 15   09/21/17 05:16 PM
x*Lol, Rob's interviews were fun! Raven's had to be the best and thanks for reminding me of Matt's LOL NT
colleenag09/21/17 06:34 PM
x*My favorite was his Raven interview. Asking about mensa, illnesses, marathon, lightening. Then saying she is so popular there have been parties! NT
ScienceGirl09/21/17 05:45 PM
x*Loved Mark ragging on Matt being such a joke. He was talking about him not taking the safety for 2 from tree of temptation. LOL. Love Mark now NT
Pixie509/21/17 05:38 PM
x*There was no safety. He was (incorrectly) ragging on him for not taking "2 vetos" which is useless unless you win them both! NT
ScienceGirl09/21/17 05:49 PM
x*mark is a dick I hope Elena stomps on his heart. NT
krh503809/21/17 05:43 PM
x*I never liked him. NT
robin8609/21/17 05:58 PM
x*I love Mark!!!! NT
3kidz09/21/17 05:55 PM
x*He's funny to me!! NT
Pixie509/21/17 05:46 PM
x*But he was incorrect about the Tree of Temptation. He is just a petty bitter ex-minion. NT
ScienceGirl09/21/17 05:55 PM
x*Haha! That is actually the description of Matt when he refused to comply with HN rules NT
Pixie509/21/17 07:05 PM
x*Rob asked some good questions. You could tell he was making fun of each by things he said to them, they didn't get it & thought was was being nice. NT
diddly09/21/17 05:21 PM
x*i LOVED the way he would look at the cam with his eyes widening as they answered his trolling questions, like a lil secret between him and us! NT
colleenag09/21/17 06:37 PM
x*Yes, especially with Raven. I just didn't like him kissing Paul's behind and not holding him accountable with most of his answers NT
3kidz09/21/17 05:24 PM
x*OMG! "What is you favorite flavor of Kool-Aid Paul made?" Raven: "I guess the red..cherry flavor. All of Paul's cooking was really good." NT
ScienceGirl09/21/17 05:50 PM
x*Rob tried and tried again asking Paul. But it was clear Paul did not have a clue why he lost. NT
Singaling09/21/17 05:34 PM
*All this negative talk about a "bitter" jury makes me laugh. If you lie to me and f*** me over, I'll never forget it and, will do the same to you. And
das75428568 64   09/21/17 05:14 PM
x*You reap what you sow NT
FurnitureAlliance09/21/17 07:16 PM
x*The game is about lying and screwing people over. How does anyone win then? people think Dan should have beat Ian. This jury was just full of
ScienceGirl09/21/17 05:58 PM
x*You do it in the game, but own it afterwards. Had Paul not lied in goodbye messages & finale questions & been humble he would have won I think. NT
melodytrax09/22/17 05:10 AM
x*Ian won it fair and square. Nobody is entitled to the win. They have to give it to you NT
FurnitureAlliance09/21/17 07:17 PM
x*I'm so grateful for logical posters like yourself, ScienceGirl! Keep fighting the good fight! Lol NT
robin8609/21/17 06:04 PM
x*LMAO... NT
Evil_TX_Redhead09/21/17 06:28 PM
x*Once someone leaves the house, no need to lie to them in goodbye messages... own it... NT
Evil_TX_Redhead09/21/17 06:03 PM
x*Agree. Each juror owns their vote. There is no rule about the standard to use for casting that vote. It's whatever reason the juror chooses. NT
Jake8109/21/17 05:38 PM
x*I disagree. It's an unsaid rule that you vote for who played the best. They didn't like how he played, fair enough, but he still played the best. NT
tsk092809/21/17 07:13 PM
x*It's not an unsaid rule. Most fans are happy with the outcome of BB19 because jury management is the key issue. Unsaid rule is don't alienate Jury. NT
Jake8109/21/17 10:18 PM
x*How many times has Jeff Probst said on Survivor that the trick is to vote people out but do it in such a way that they still want to vote for
spinsister09/22/17 04:46 PM
x*Some believe it's an unsaid rule. It's not a point of faith for many, however, as testimony here reveals. The vast majority here loved the outcome. NT
Jake8109/21/17 09:52 PM
x*No it isn't. The best player will get the votes because they handled people in a way that made them respect your game. NT
FurnitureAlliance09/21/17 07:18 PM
x*There's no rule... EXCEPT when it goes against your fave... NT
Evil_TX_Redhead09/21/17 06:04 PM
x*So if the jury voted on who was best dressed, that would be a good thing and no one should complain? NT
Blockhead09/21/17 06:06 PM
x*OMG... that's a stretch... but just like the Dan vote... he lost due to bad jury management... NT
Evil_TX_Redhead09/21/17 06:27 PM
x*If there are no rules, then anything goes. Would Dan have won if he spent most of the summer alone on a hammock? Would Paul have won had he banged
Blockhead09/21/17 06:59 PM
x*There ARE no rules. That's the design, and it works very well. The ONLY rule is: vote for one of the two finalists. Reasons don't matter. NT
Jake8109/21/17 09:54 PM
x*if everyone played that way they would be drawing skittles every week and every hoh would be thrown. might as well just split them into teams. NT
sliver01309/21/17 05:26 PM
x*No, they wouldn't. The system works fine. Paul is the reason the jury voted as they did. It's on him 100%. He lost 2X because he failed at BB. NT
Jake8109/21/17 05:41 PM
x*This is true. He's good at part of the game, but not the WHOLE game. Play good for 3 quarters, and suck the last quarter, you lose. Paul lost. NT
HamsterHead09/22/17 05:13 AM
x*So Josh played good for the whole game and that's why he won? NT
Blockhead09/22/17 05:15 AM
x*Josh played better at the most important part: Jury management... if you can't get the jury on your side, you won't get votes... NT
Evil_TX_Redhead09/22/17 01:20 PM
x*what wouldn't? i never said the system doesn't work or that paul isn't the reason he lost. what are you talking about? NT
sliver01309/21/17 06:05 PM
x*Apparently people just want a house full of Jenn City's now. *shrug* They can have their poor man's BB. I'll just watch reruns of the greats. NT
robin8609/21/17 05:39 PM
x*No one wants that. No one wants an anointed vet like Paul and a house full of sheep, though. NT
Jake8109/22/17 04:46 AM
x*I applaud them for voting how they felt. It's THEIR vote. For once they didn't follow the crowd and voted how they wanted to NT
AmericasPlayer09/21/17 05:22 PM
x*Are you serious? The had a bitter jury pact and manipulated other to vote bitter with them. Kevin had been manipuated until he rethought things
ScienceGirl09/21/17 05:59 PM
x*Absolutely. Each juror votes for 1 of the 2 finalists. There is no standard other than each juror voting as they wish. Paul failed twice in a row. NT
Jake8109/21/17 05:44 PM
x*"the crowd" meaning production? NT
BB201109/21/17 05:35 PM
x*Nah, crowd being Maven and Dr. Will NT
AmericasPlayer09/21/17 05:40 PM
x*The crowd was the "bitter jury pact". They were so bitter about being rejected that they decided "anybody but Paul" and then manipualted Jalex into
ScienceGirl09/21/17 06:01 PM
x*LMAO @ manipulating Jalex... Paul lost their votes on his own... b/c he's self-righteous INSANE idiot who does no wrong... NT
Evil_TX_Redhead09/21/17 06:06 PM
x*Dr Will had an ear piece with production telling him what to say and ask...so, there's that NT
BB201109/21/17 05:45 PM
x*So Josh didn't lie to anyone and didn't screw anyone over and that's why the jury voted for him? NT
Blockhead09/21/17 05:18 PM
x*Josh owned his lying. He came clean at the end - didn't lie in goodbye messages NT
melodytrax09/22/17 05:14 AM
x*He did not pretend to be in F2 or F3 with the whole house. people did not feel betrayed. He also had no control over his own destiny in the game! NT
ScienceGirl09/21/17 06:03 PM
x*Paul did not lose because he lied. He lost because he's lousy at jury management. Most F2s don't have the problem he did. There's a reason. NT
Jake8109/21/17 05:45 PM
x*Josh owned his behavior and lies. Made sincere apologies before the evictions and justified his vote in the gb messages. His only smart moves. NT
hfabs09/21/17 05:21 PM
x*The game is about lying, manipulating, and screwing people over. Only 1 can win. If you can't accept that, then you're a sore loser. Period. NT
robin8609/21/17 05:17 PM
x*Totally agree. NT
tsk092809/21/17 07:15 PM
x*Totally agree. A big factor was that the majority of the "bitter jury pact" were made up of recruits that don't respect the game. NT
ScienceGirl09/21/17 06:04 PM
x*no. its just like throwing a disk as close to x as possible w/out going over. its balance and its managing. its not just who is biggest dick NT
izzatyou09/21/17 05:51 PM
x*No, the game is about getting to F2 and WINNING the jury vote. That's designed to be a check on bad behavior. It works. It's why Paul lost TWICE. NT
Jake8109/21/17 05:39 PM
x*And the winners own their behavior. Paul didn't. He didn't know when to stop lying & manipulating...it cost him the game. NT
whoscatisthat09/21/17 05:28 PM
x*I agree that he messed up in that department but sitting next to Josh of all people??? There's no true game justification for voting for Josh over
robin8609/21/17 05:31 PM
x*The jury gets to decide their own game justification. They lived the game. Paul blew it. Worst jury management ever possibly. NT
whoscatisthat09/21/17 05:35 PM
x*But, getting p*ssed about it, is part of the game too, or there would be no round table or jury! Period. NT
das7542809/21/17 05:25 PM
x*Incorrect. Your game is over at that point. That's just a character flaw. NT
robin8609/21/17 05:29 PM
x*So the game ends w/no loser or winner? LMAO... NT
Evil_TX_Redhead09/21/17 06:08 PM
x*What?? No, the jurors personal game is over when they leave the house. NT
robin8609/21/17 09:42 PM
x*No it's not over until the finale. They're still living "in the game" at jury. Still no access to outside world, still same people around... NT
Evil_TX_Redhead09/22/17 01:22 PM
x*Incorrect. The game is over when the jury votes. And they each OWN their vote. They can vote it however they please. There's no imaginary standard. NT
Jake8109/21/17 05:46 PM
x*If Alex, Jason, Elena, Mark, Cody made the F2, they would all want the jury to vote on game and not be bitter they had been voted out. Hypocrites. NT
Blockhead09/21/17 05:34 PM
x*None of them would have done the stupid, needless, ugly things Paul did, such as vilifying each person evicted their departure week. NT
Jake8109/21/17 06:00 PM
x*Yep. NT
robin8609/21/17 05:36 PM
x*LOL It's obvious who the "sore loser" is. Insulting people's "character" is a "character flaw" in itself. NT
das7542809/21/17 05:33 PM
x*Being a sore loser and voting purely out of spite is a character flaw. It's character flaw on my part for recognizing that? How does that logic work?
robin8609/21/17 05:35 PM
x*That's not true. They're not sore losers. Paul is. Voting against him is not a character flaw. Paul's bad conduct is. Jurors & most fans agree. NT
Jake8109/21/17 05:50 PM
x*Look up "arrogance". NT
das7542809/21/17 05:42 PM
x*Lol! That makes clear sense too. NT
robin8609/21/17 05:53 PM
x*Incorrect. It is a social game....always has been. NT
hfabs09/21/17 05:32 PM
x*Not even about lying, but not OWNING!BOWN that you got Joshmas to take the blood so you would look good! OWN that you wanted Kevin out. Don't BS in
bigbrotherfan709/21/17 05:17 PM
x*PP did it to himself. P unnecessary kept lying even on Finally night. Part of the game is jury management n he never card about that part NT
Emijo09/21/17 05:27 PM
*Who is 'Nick' with the Jessica picture that's in the Alumni tweet section? Seems like that's not a former HG NT
nicholaspuppy56 4   09/21/17 05:14 PM
x*Is it Gina Marie's Nick ?? NT
DaniTheWinner09/21/17 05:18 PM
x*I forgot about that Nick, but I'm guessing he doesn't have a twitter account that looks like a Jessica fan account. NT
nicholaspuppy09/21/17 05:20 PM
x*It’s nick NT
arbo09/21/17 05:16 PM
x*BB8 Nick? NT
KungFuBarbie09/21/17 05:44 PM
*Marlena, Jody and Maven...will any of these showmances last at least 6 months? NT
AmericasPlayer51 9   09/21/17 05:14 PM
x*I see Marlena lasting the longest. Jess and Cody are way too different. They'll prob just end up being friends. I see no future in Maven. NT
becks12309/21/17 05:28 PM
x*Matt may need to enter the witness protection program. NT
gd2BQueen09/21/17 05:32 PM
x*I don't see Cody and Jess lasting long term. She seems to have a high drama/stir the pot kind of personality and Cody seems just the opposite. NT
gd2BQueen09/21/17 05:26 PM
x*They baffle me with all the marriage talk. Cody is not one to want the spotlight so it'll be interesting how they work out NT
AmericasPlayer09/21/17 05:46 PM
x*Yes, polar opposites. NT
gd2BQueen09/21/17 07:27 PM
x*I'd say no longer than a year. NT
blackeyeddog09/21/17 05:21 PM
x*Don't care. NT
LastBandit09/21/17 05:15 PM
x*Then why post? NT
AmericasPlayer09/21/17 05:17 PM
x*I don't think Jess will like living in TX trailer park? NT
quint3809/21/17 05:15 PM
*Is Frankie Grande a lock for Celeb BB? NT
quint3822 5   09/21/17 05:12 PM
x*No, he is a lock for All Stars 2 next summer though NT
justin_2pac09/21/17 05:22 PM
x*Didn't JC already announce they're taking applications for next summer's show? Or does that not really mean it won't be AS2? NT
colleenag09/21/17 06:50 PM
x*THey said the same thing after BB6... even held auditions even though they said they were contacted in January... NT
Evil_TX_Redhead09/21/17 06:57 PM
x*alright, thank you! NT
colleenag09/22/17 05:56 AM
x*no NT
bigbrotherfan709/21/17 05:18 PM
*oooof dr will might be good at the roundtable but his interviewing skills were rough, they need to hire someone else, even jeff was better NT
naomii31 9   09/21/17 05:09 PM
x*Terrible and boring interviews!! Painful to watch! NT
delrayfan09/21/17 07:16 PM
x*RIP Jeff NT
RoadZombie09/21/17 05:46 PM
x*His interviews were terrible. While he told them how delusional they were, he didn't get anywhere with his questions and ended up stroking egos. NT
hfabs09/21/17 05:15 PM
x*Jeff was way way worse NT
arbo09/21/17 05:15 PM
x*Yeah, he had some funny moments, but overall it was weak. NT
Barbara109/21/17 05:12 PM
x*He said he had an earpiece in the RT. Regardless, his interviews were hysterical and he tried to ask real questions, but BB made him stop. NT
KungFuBarbie09/21/17 05:46 PM
x*I wanted to know know more about the slap but he flat out said production said not to talk about the slap. NT
BB201109/21/17 05:52 PM
x*We saw the slap on the episode, but Josh obviosly took in in fun as intended since he did not even recall it happening. NT
ScienceGirl09/21/17 06:09 PM
x*Yes, but can't understand why Dr Will was told NOT to talk about it? NT
BB201109/21/17 06:14 PM
*Xmas admitted she had feelings for Paul, but Paul doesn't feel anything about her. Lol REJECTED. She's become a joke/ laughing stock NT
godfreyfan57 13   09/21/17 05:08 PM
x*Even if it were true (but Christmas has said she does NOT have romantic feelings), nobody has EVER not liked you back? Never? NT
ScienceGirl09/21/17 06:11 PM
x*When did she admit she had romantic feelings for Paul? Please do not say that clip as it was chopped and edited to look tht way. NT
ScienceGirl09/21/17 06:10 PM
x*She admitted it in interviews yesterday and I saw it on live feeds, it was pretty obvious she was talking about her feelings for Paul. NT
N2BB09/21/17 06:12 PM
x*Yep!!! NT
BB201109/21/17 06:20 PM
x*Agreed... NT
Evil_TX_Redhead09/21/17 06:16 PM
x*You seem really excited. NT
blackeyeddog09/21/17 05:23 PM
x*Nope not at all NT
bigbrotherfan709/21/17 05:18 PM
x*Shelby wishes she was rejected by Paul NT
arbo09/21/17 05:13 PM
x*Seriously? WHy is Shelby being drug into this? Did she say something? NT
Evil_TX_Redhead09/21/17 06:16 PM
x*So anyone who likes someone & feelings aren't reciprocated is a joke/laughing stock? That probably includes pretty much everyone at some point. NT
Barbara109/21/17 05:13 PM
x*She loves hard and that's on her, but I can't laugh about it because rejection sucks NT
AmericasPlayer09/21/17 05:11 PM
x*Happens to everybody. Not uproariously funny. NT
Debra_Kadabra09/21/17 05:10 PM
x*Yeah, it's a really sh!tty feeling. NT
robin8609/21/17 05:22 PM
*Is there DR footage of Paul ever seriously contemplating evicting Josh? If so, I'm curious how Josh would still feel about Paul after seeing it. NT
arminius11 2   09/21/17 04:54 PM
x*I believe he chose Josh the first week (after the apple selfishness) to be his goat and then both protected & shitt all over his game til the end. NT
Dolffie09/21/17 05:10 PM
x*If I am remembering correctly he talked most about Josh early on. Same as he talked about Christmas after her hinky vote. NT
ArgosFan09/21/17 04:57 PM
*Where can I find a list of the HG's social media? I am sure this has been posted but there's so much here, there's a lot to go through!
RunningMeg104 1   09/21/17 04:53 PM
x*At the top of the page there is a "Links" button which has links to SM sites for HGs from all seasons. It's not always updated. There is also the
Blockhead09/21/17 04:56 PM
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